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Old 06-04-17, 10:20 AM
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Indeed an interesting helmet and with what is undoubtedly a triple fern reinforcement badge and a puggaree side patch.
I am feeling Bill does not have a last name?

Until yesterday ,I did not have a name for 'Bill '
I matched him to William Webb 10/1018.

A returned Gallipoli man
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Congratulations Iain. A terrific effort.

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Old 07-04-17, 09:32 AM
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Until yesterday ,I did not have a name for 'Bill '
I matched him to William Webb 10/1018.

A returned Gallipoli man
Well that explains the patched helmet and why he has 9th shoulder insignia.
It appears the photo was taken on his return from Gallipoli, perhaps the badge being worn is due to a lack of availability of a 9th Regiment hat badge.


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A couple of advertisements in ''The Camp Courier'' , the official newspaper of Trentham camp, dated 8th December 1915. James Sutherland Robertson, 8/4008 was in D company, 10th reinforcements .
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A couple of advertisements in ''The Camp Courier'' , the official newspaper of Trentham camp, dated 8th December 1915. James Sutherland Robertson, 8/4008 was in D company, 10th reinforcements .
Hi puk, the Camp Courier newspapers are an important information source when it comes to identifying WW1 badge suppliers, and how they progressed during the war.

The following advert is from the very first issue of ''The Camp Courier'' published on the 20th October 1915, as can be seen, Horace William Lloyd was the first jeweler to set up shop at Trentham Camp.

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Hi puk, the Camp Courier newspapers are an important information source when it comes to identifying WW1 badge suppliers, and how they progressed during the war.

The following advert is from the very first issue of ''The Camp Courier'' published on the 20th October 1915, as can be seen, Horace William Lloyd was the first jeweler to set up shop at Trentham Camp.

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H W Llyod's shop is dead centre in this cropped postcard, on far right is Smith & Sherlaw Watchmaker and Jeweler .
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H W Llyod's shop is dead centre in this cropped postcard, on far right is Smith & Sherlaw Watchmaker and Jeweler .
This one shows good detail of Smith & Sherlaws shop, next door is Victoria laundry, who were regular advertisers in the Camp Courier, and next door to them is Shands bookshop, and three doors down is Llyods.

The Smith & Sherlaw advert is from a ''Camp Courier' published 19th July 1916.

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Shand Bookstore advert, Camp Courier 13th November 1915, and Victoria Laundry advert, Camp Courier 27th May 1916.

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J, E. Fitt, watchmaker and jeweller, Featherston Camp.

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Advert, Camp Courier 18th March 1916.

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Horace William Lloyd, the first jeweler to set up shop at Trentham Camp.

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Advert, Camp Courier 15th May 1918

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Arnold Ashworth Binns, the second jeweler to set up shop at Trentham Camp.

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Advert, Camp Courier 11th October 1916.

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Great stuff, guys!
Not been on the Forum for a few weeks (thanks, Covid-19....not as one afflicted but just because it b*****ed up lots of other stuff) so this was a pleasant surprise to see all this new info.
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This one shows good detail of Smith & Sherlaws shop, next door is Victoria laundry, who were regular advertisers in the Camp Courier, and next door to them is Shands bookshop, and three doors down is Llyods.

The Smith & Sherlaw advert is from a ''Camp Courier' published 19th July 1916.

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Nice to see the E.L.O. (NOT Electric Light Orchestra....) given a mention. I used to puzzle about the mention of "1st Trents" until I worked out that it was "1st Trenthams" or 23/. Right?

I've also seen it as just a "T" in a circle written on forms.

I know the NZRB were called the Dinks but does anyone know what the full four NZRB groups(23/;24/;25/;26/) were called. From a talk with a long-gone NZRB man I heard the following:
The square Dinks (the black felt square worn behind the badge)

The arse upside down Dinks (the inverted triangle felt backing)

The others are???????

Oh, and that little NZRB badge? "The monkey on the stick"
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Nice to see the E.L.O. (NOT Electric Light Orchestra....) given a mention. I used to puzzle about the mention of "1st Trents" until I worked out that it was "1st Trenthams" or 23/. Right?

I've also seen it as just a "T" in a circle written on forms.

I know the NZRB were called the Dinks but does anyone know what the full four NZRB groups(23/;24/;25/;26/) were called. From a talk with a long-gone NZRB man I heard the following:
The square Dinks (the black felt square worn behind the badge)

The arse upside down Dinks (the inverted triangle felt backing)

The others are???????

Oh, and that little NZRB badge? "The monkey on the stick"
As you say, the NZ riflemen were humorously dubbed the "dinkum soldiers" by the other infantry brigades and they later accepted the affectionate sobriquet of "The Dinks" with considerable pride.

The black cloth badges of the NZ Rifle brigade represent the black facings on the green uniforms originally worn by the early 1800s British Riflemen.

The 1st Battalion was nicknamed the "diamond dinks."
The 2nd Battalion was nicknamed the "square dinks."
The 3rd Battalion was nicknamed the "pyramid dinks."
The 4th Battalion was nicknamed the "upside-down dinks." (or “arse up dinks”)

For those who are interested in NZRB badges, the following post on the MilitariaNZ website is worth a look.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mili...ata-t1797.html



NZRB 1st Battalion 1915-1916 officers Service Cap.jpg

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As you say, the NZ riflemen were humorously dubbed the "dinkum soldiers" by the other infantry brigades and they later accepted the affectionate sobriquet of "The Dinks" with considerable pride.

The black cloth badges of the NZ Rifle brigade represent the black facings on the green uniforms originally worn by the early 1800s British Riflemen.

The 1st Battalion was nicknamed the "diamond dinks."
The 2nd Battalion was nicknamed the "square dinks."
The 3rd Battalion was nicknamed the "pyramid dinks."
The 4th Battalion was nicknamed the "upside-down dinks." (or “arse up dinks”)

For those who are interested in NZRB badges, the following post on the MilitariaNZ website is worth a look.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mili...ata-t1797.html



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Top Dollar paid for original 1st, 2nd and 3rd (NZ/3/MGC) New Zealand Machine Gun Company badges.
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