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11-08-17, 12:28 AM
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Royal Irish Fusiliers officer SD cap badge query
All,
I cant seem to determine what was the cap badge as worn on the officer's SD cap circa WW1....was it the Harp or the Eagle and I assume the smaller Coronet? Thanks, CB 
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#2
11-08-17, 05:01 AM
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The Eagle for WW 1 they went with the Harp and Feathers later But! don't know when, could have been 1922 when we lost all our Southern Rgts to the formation of Eire, (stand to be corrected of course) but the Eagle was relegated to Collars - Very nice Gilt and Silver mind! I have an Officers Bronze (missing Coronet). Could be WW2 period I don't know?
Will look at those I have this afternoon and if you wish can send images onto you just send me your Email address if you wish, tryinv to work out if those I have had sliders? I know some I have are lugged with a fixed Coronet. All the best billy
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#3
11-08-17, 08:19 AM
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Billy could you post a picture of your bronze collar.
Danny
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11-08-17, 01:00 PM
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Thanks for that. I suspected it was likely the eagle for officers in ww1, but I wonder if the harp started to be worn around that time as well.
I must say that I find this regiment to be quite confusing with all the variants and changes to their badges for both officers and ORs. CB
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#5
11-08-17, 01:12 PM
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The 1906 and 1938 dated officers pattern cards show the grenade with Harp & POW feathers (without Coronet) in bronze metal. Forum Member "Cavarlyman" kindly shared with me his photos of these cards held by the regimental museum .
However what you will invariably see in Great War photographs is the silver and gilt two piece forage cap badge, Harp & Crown (with smaller coronet) in use. A search of the IWM photograph collection will quickly show this... collar badge , almost always the silver & gilt eagle on grenade with coronet as examples... http://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/476/32...at=photographs http://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/429/81...at=photographs John
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#6
11-08-17, 01:20 PM
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The first regimental pattern Field Service Cap badge was Princess Victoria's Coronet (silver) with a gilt flaming Grenade with the French Imperial Eagle, of the French 8th Infantry Regiment looking to its left, c. 1897.
This was quickly replaced by the 2nd Pattern by at least 1906 (and almost certainly earlier) for officers and 1903 for O/Rs: A separate Princess Victoria's Coronet in silver above a gilt flaming Grenade with the Prince of Wales's Plumes above a Harp. John
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#7
11-08-17, 02:12 PM
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Always wore S&G
The museum has 1 complete Bz example & a number of Bz grenades but the officers always wore silver & gilt, even in the trenches, but this was a Regt who declined to send any officers to the IG's on formation turning down the invitation from Buck House!
Although cap badges exist with an eagle they are error items by the manufacturer - the museum has NO eagle cap badges, only collars. There are 100's of photos in the museum 1914 - all sil & gilt...
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