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Old 25-06-21, 10:18 PM
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Could it be on a boss?
The cap badge does appear to be smaller than the collar badges but would a sergeant be wearing a boss badge?. I thought that was just an officer thing.
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Could it be on a boss?
I think it is Leigh. He's not a plain sergeant but a regular army Sergeant Instructor of Musketry attached as permanent staff (4-stripe rank and appointment badge refers) and as such dressed as First Class Staff (as in - sergeants on the unit HQ staff). Those of that grouping generally wore special insignia to mark their superior status.
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Leigh, Hoot and Toby,

Many thanks for the further comments on this photograph.

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I find the orderly room sign in the initial images interesting as I had not thought that type of stencil font existed that for back. Regards, Paul.
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Paul,

Hadn't noticed that, it does indeed appear to have been painted using a stencil and I would have imagined most would have been completed by hand at the time. Will take a look through my other postcards and photographs to see if there are other examples.

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Brass stencil sets were issued to SQMS and BQMS for the marking of canvas, both tentage and soldier’s kit bags. Similarly stamp sets for impressing numbers and letters into metal.
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Brass stencil sets were issued to SQMS and BQMS for the marking of canvas, both tentage and soldier’s kit bags. Similarly stamp sets for impressing numbers and letters into metal.
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Many thanks, any idea what year these sets were first issued?

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Many thanks, any idea what year these sets were first issued?

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WW1 British army wooden cased brass stencil set in good used condition.The set is maker marked for W H Harling London 1917 with the war department arrow on the top of the wooden case.
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Thanks for that, I imagine that they must have been issued in the late Victorian or Edwardian era initially.

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Thanks for the stencil info - sorry for going off on a tangent. I have this hospital bag that was suggested on the Great War Forum would likely be post Great War due to the 'Jeep Stencil Font' but I now wonder if the stencil font could have been copied earlier. It is a more formal layout than most- the personal details patch being sown in red and green which I think would relate to KRRC. These bags look to have been made in any scrap material with usually a blank details patch- you would think issued to men in hospital at random, but this bag looks like the KRRC tried to get regimental bags to their soldiers. Regards, Paul.
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Mike

Thanks for that, I imagine that they must have been issued in the late Victorian or Edwardian era initially.

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I think that the earliest that they might’ve been on the stores inventory is 1864 Simon, although it needs checking (as an example it lists the pace stick on each company’s camp equipment for pacing out intervals between tentage, horse lines, latrines, etc.). That period was such an important time in the history of war office publishing as it was decided by Horse Guards HQ that books would be issued listing the organisation and equipment of each of the combatant and combatant support arms. Various junior staff officers of the arms concerned were nominated as the authors/compilers (I’ve often wondered what their reactions might have been!). Unfortunately, in the event only some were produced, and others not produced in their intended fullness, but nonetheless they’re extremely useful for historians and military enthusiasts interested in that period and the heyday of the British Army. A few of them are available online and some were fully or partially republished by specialist book publishers. They have been particularly useful in ascertaining the rank and appointment badges of NCOs at the time and were used by notable uniform historians as references, including by Maj NP Dawnay, whose opus on said ranks remains the only serious study of that subject.

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Toby,

Many thanks for that comprehensive reply, will take a look online for an example.

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Many thanks for that comprehensive reply, will take a look online for an example.

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Here is the link Simon (scroll down till you reach "Equipment" and you'll see them all there). I haven't checked the contents but I'm sure you will find it interesting: https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Military_pe...ding_Equipment
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Here is the link Simon (scroll down till you reach "Equipment" and you'll see them all there). I haven't checked the contents but I'm sure you will find it interesting: https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Military_pe...ding_Equipment
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Here is the link Simon (scroll down till you reach "Equipment" and you'll see them all there). I haven't checked the contents but I'm sure you will find it interesting: https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Military_pe...ding_Equipment
Thank you , what a great link.

Did a quick check and page 46 (Part VI - Commissariat c.1864) shows "Stencil Plates".

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