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Old 20-04-18, 01:45 AM
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I have some Canadian para berets that trying to authenticate; I know nothing about the intricacies of these items.

1) The first is a 1974 Fleur de Lis, Beret Maroon, Dorothea Knitting Mills with non-magnetic grommets. It has an Officers two piece “Airborne Canada Aeroporte” cap badge with a tang fastener.
2) The 2nd is also maroon in shade with a “Canadian Parachute Corps” enlisted badge with a tang. Magnetic grommets.
3) The last is marked is a size 7 1/2 1945, Fleur de Lis Basque Beret from Dorothea Knitting Mills, Limited, Toronto. No visible Broad arrow or other text, non-magnetic grommets with leather reinforcing over the grommets on the inside. The two-piece “Canadian Parachute Corps” metal badge is well made (in my opinion) and in need of a good clear to remove the green corrosion (advice appreciated). Some detail of the back of the badge tang is shown. Two parallel holes, probably for original posts to the cap badge, are apparent before the slider badge has been added.

There seems to be rather a lot of the WWII era chocolate berets around currently?

I hope there is sufficient detail in the photos to determine if they are period original, made-up or outright replicas. I can add more images if required.
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Old 20-04-18, 02:03 AM
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Zorgon, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

The best I can tell you is the berets are original anyways. Both the 1 Can Para badges are reproductions. On the officers badge, the parachute and the scroll are silver but it's 2 pieces, never 1 and the wings and maple leafs are brass. The sliders are also a bit of a giveaway.
I can't speak to the Canadian Airborne badge as it may be one of the later ones made but the quality seems a little weak compared to the early badges with the parachute overlay looking overly thick.
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Old 20-04-18, 11:51 AM
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As Sapper00 says, both the Canadian Parachute Corps badges are reproductions. The Canadian Airborne Regiment look okay.
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Old 20-04-18, 02:59 PM
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Hi

I agree that the CAR badge is OK. I have one just like it. With that slider, Middle 1970s (possibly UK) manufacture. Nice one.

Oh, and I don't think it is an Officer's badge.

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Old 20-04-18, 03:03 PM
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Thank you all for your thoughts and comments.
So much to learn - so little time.
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Old 20-04-18, 06:44 PM
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Would like to take the opportunity to provide benchmark imagery of a beret and cap badge which I obtained in the summer of 1976, while visiting onboard the Museum and Depot of the then Canadian Parachute Regiment and Airborne Forces in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. It was personally handed to me by CWO Arn Middleton, then curator of the museum, and serving member of the regiment. I paid for it, and it was drawn directly out of regimental stores at the time. I don't believe I have to equivocate regarding authenticity and provenance. I do apologize for my lack of professional photographic skills regarding lighting and resolution of the imagery. Only hope I don't have major problems with the forum's necessary limitations on memory.

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Old 20-04-18, 06:54 PM
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Arnhemjim, those are perfect examples of the 1970's beret and cap badge, thanks for sharing.

Did you try the mock tower across the street from the depot?

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Old 20-04-18, 07:31 PM
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Hello Mike,
Unfortunately didn't have the opportunity at the time. However, have done my bit on occasion. Was there with wife and three children on vacation from Southern California. Had corresponded with Arn prior to visit, and never forget him in immaculate mufti, complete with maroon blazer, taking his day off to provide a private tour of the museum. True gentleman.

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Old 20-04-18, 08:11 PM
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Just a note re the CAR badges. There are several variations of their badege, including a recently id'd lugged pattern, first issue. The quality of the CAR badges varies considerably.
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Old 21-04-18, 12:15 AM
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Jim,

Looks like you have the second issue badge with the panel lines included in the interior of the chute. The issues both before and after are flat in the chute interior. Apparently, this second issue did not stay around too long and the next issue went back to the flat interior. Lou Grimshaw states in his book that this badge is considered rare.

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