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Old 14-05-21, 05:05 PM
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Default British Army anodised aluminium cap badges by M AZAM & SONS of Lahore, Pakis

Prompted by recent posts I am attempting to collate information on and pictures of British Army anodised aluminium cap badges produced by M AZAM & SONS of Lahore, Pakistan.

There are a number of threads and posts on the Forum going back to 2009 enquiring about these badges. Identification was not always conclusive, but I have included information and photos from some of the previous posts.

The AZAM badges are (usually) found in cast aluminium with a rich dark gold colour and grainy frontal finish. Some have sliders but most have two ‘tombstone’ shaped flat alloy lugs with drilled holes which only thin gauge wire cotter pins will fit.

The AZAM catalogues dating from the mid 1970s clearly indicate that “metalic or silver anodized gold cap badges can be supplied at reduced prices……' price per cap badge was from 30 pence!

Although made for collectors and obvious copies it also seems that badges were ordered by British Army units when MOD provision was not possible due to cost or small quantities required. This might particularly have been the case for Bands and Corps of Drums helmet badges and also regimental arm or belt buckle badges.

In his book “No Bull” Chris Marsh describes the badge construction and outlines the history of the AZAM company on page 151.

So far I have noted the following badges as probable AZAM products: (* = photo in album here https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4318)

Queen’s Own Highlanders (one part badge) *
Royal Regiment of Fusiliers (not too sure) *
Devon and Dorset Regiment (with slider) *
16th/5th Lancers (all silver KC) *
West Yorkshire Regiment (with J.R.GAUNT LONDON marked slider) *
Gloucestershire Regiment (cap and back badge) *
Seaforth Highlanders (5th Bn) *
Cameron Highlanders *
Liverpool Scottish *
Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry *
Royal Army Chaplain’s Department (shown in ‘No Bull’ page 193)
King’s Royal Rifle Corps (KC Black) *
Connaught Rangers *
8th King’s Royal Irish Hussars (QC) *
REME *


Also reported but no photo seen:

Lovat Scouts
King’s Own Scottish Borderers
Royal Munster Fusiliers

Grateful for comments and pictures of badges in member’s collections which I will add into my album for future reference.


Tim
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Old 14-05-21, 05:14 PM
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I'm sure that Peter B unearthed something regarding Yeomanry arm badges made by Azzams . Apologies to you Peter if it wasnt you.
I recall it was the DLOY who requested NCOs arm badges and the MOD turned them down,so they went to Azzams. I'm sure it mentions other regiments too but none specifically.
I've seen anodised NCO arm badges to the Berkshire Yeomanry (silver horse on lugs) or is that Berks and Westminster Dragoons and the Worcestershire Hussars (pear leaves) or was that one worn by Warwick and Worcs .
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Old 14-05-21, 05:43 PM
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I had.....and will see if I still have
East Surrey KC
R Warwick's
RMLI Helmet badge
Kings African Rifles KC
I must have had some others, my dad used to order them for me in the 70's
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Old 14-05-21, 08:28 PM
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I'm sure that Peter B unearthed something regarding Yeomanry arm badges made by Azzams . Apologies to you Peter if it wasnt you.
I recall it was the DLOY who requested NCOs arm badges and the MOD turned them down,so they went to Azzams. I'm sure it mentions other regiments too but none specifically.
I've seen anodised NCO arm badges to the Berkshire Yeomanry (silver horse on lugs) or is that Berks and Westminster Dragoons and the Worcestershire Hussars (pear leaves) or was that one worn by Warwick and Worcs .
Mike,
Thank you. This extract from Crown Imperial provides a little more information and mentions the DLOY cap badge in anodised with loops/lugs and an arm badge not in anodised.
The image of the Worcestershire pear blossom arm badge is in the album (courtesy of Bess).
There is evidence in the AZAM catalogue and also mentioned by PB that a helmet plate, although possibly not anodised, was made for the band of the King’s Regiment.


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Old 15-05-21, 08:12 AM
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Tim,
I've found a couple more:-
Int Corps (similar to the West Yorks)
RAOC
C&D Yeo - horrendous

Also done a bit of research re the Gloucestershire belt plate AZAM badge. The lugs are exactly the same distance apart and location as the MOD issue - 1 inch. It fits on the belt plate fine. Clearly no accident.

Is it possible that a Gloucestershire unit ordered them for their belts from Azams?

Additionally, regarding the Warks & Worcs Yeo arm badge (pear blossom) - this is a rather random badge to 'copy'. Again, is it likely they were ordered by the unit in lieu of the issue item?

Whilst the Azam badges present as crude on the rear, they are frequently of 'acceptable' quality on the front.

Bess
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Old 15-05-21, 11:42 AM
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Hi Gents,
Here's a few more for Tim's album.
Regards
Colin
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Old 15-05-21, 06:01 PM
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Hi Folks
Here are mine, a few more than I remembered.

EAST SURREY KC
BLACK WATCH KC
GREEN HOWORDS
ROYAL LEICESTERSHIRE BERET SIZE
HERFORDSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY
ROYAL WARWICKSHIRES
NORFOLK YEOMANRY
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Old 18-05-21, 10:02 AM
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Prompted by recent posts I am attempting to collate information on and pictures of British Army anodised aluminium cap badges produced by M AZAM & SONS of Lahore, Pakistan.

There are a number of threads and posts on the Forum going back to 2009 enquiring about these badges. Identification was not always conclusive, but I have included information and photos from some of the previous posts.

The AZAM badges are (usually) found in cast aluminium with a rich dark gold colour and grainy frontal finish. Some have sliders but most have two ‘tombstone’ shaped flat alloy lugs with drilled holes which only thin gauge wire cotter pins will fit.

The AZAM catalogues dating from the mid 1970s clearly indicate that “metalic or silver anodized gold cap badges can be supplied at reduced prices……' price per cap badge was from 30 pence!

Although made for collectors and obvious copies it also seems that badges were ordered by British Army units when MOD provision was not possible due to cost or small quantities required. This might particularly have been the case for Bands and Corps of Drums helmet badges and also regimental arm or belt buckle badges.

In his book “No Bull” Chris Marsh describes the badge construction and outlines the history of the AZAM company on page 151.

So far I have noted the following badges as probable AZAM products: (* = photo in album here https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4318)

Queen’s Own Highlanders (one part badge) *
Royal Regiment of Fusiliers (not too sure) *
Devon and Dorset Regiment (with slider) *
16th/5th Lancers (all silver KC) *
West Yorkshire Regiment (with J.R.GAUNT LONDON marked slider) *
Gloucestershire Regiment (cap and back badge) *
Seaforth Highlanders (5th Bn) *
Cameron Highlanders *
Liverpool Scottish *
Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry *
Royal Army Chaplain’s Department (shown in ‘No Bull’ page 193)
King’s Royal Rifle Corps (KC Black) *
Connaught Rangers *
8th King’s Royal Irish Hussars (QC) *
REME *


Also reported but no photo seen:

Lovat Scouts
King’s Own Scottish Borderers
Royal Munster Fusiliers

Grateful for comments and pictures of badges in member’s collections which I will add into my album for future reference.


Tim
Have just seen their note in the catalogue "post your letters by airmail" and would add to this "and we will reply by surface mail"....as they did when I wrote to them!
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