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Inherited my NZ grandfather's WW1 badges - help identifying please!
Hi all,
I'm new to the forum. I collect medals, but I have absolutely no knowledge of badges beyond the very, very basic. I recently inherited my NZ grandfather's WW1 medals, and along with them I received some badges that he brought back with him from the Western Front. Obviously he was a bit of a collector too! I don't plan to sell them, but I'm interested if any forum members out there can help me identify them and give me a rough idea of their values please? I've attached a scan of the badges, along with descriptions and (where I can) my ideas on what they are. All are WW1 vintage and have been sitting in a drawer for the last 95-odd years: A. NZ regiment colour patch - from pith helmets or some kind of headgear maybe? What regiment? B. Sergeant stripes - NZ I assume? C. Royal Marines collar badge D. Grenadier Guards collar badge I think? E. Royal Horse Guards collar badge F. Royal Navy button? G. Unknown badge - text "YPRES" under I assume the city crest. Belgian army badge, or a commercial souvenir? H. I think this is a Reservist cockade from a German feldmutze cap - colours seem to be Wurttemburg, red paint in centre is in good condition, black paint around the outer mostly worn off. Reservist cross in centre. I. Ribbon for German Iron Cross. I wonder how he ended up owning these two German souvenirs? J. "NZMR" shoulder tab - New Zealand Mounted Rifles I think? K. NZ 13th Reinforcements badge, "RD.812" in small type - I know nothing about these next few NZ badges... L. NZ 11th Reinforcements badge, "RD.812" in small type. M. 20th New Zealand badge - crest around bird reads "Kokiri Kia Maia" N. NZ XIII badge, scroll at bottom reads "Kia Pono Tonu" O. NZ Reinforcements badge, centre scroll under upright lion reads "Boyes Ferme" or "Soyes Ferme". P. "1st Canterbury Regt" on brass scroll, "Ake Ake Kia Kaha" on silver base, silver bird at top. Q. "NZ XXV" on scroll, upright Maori figure above. Any help you can offer will be hugely appreciated! I suspect some of the NZ badges in particular might be hidden gems or rarities? If you need higher resolution scans of any, please just ask. Thanks, Bungo If this link doesn't work, the scan is at http://imgur.com/BXSKi |
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Hi Bungo,
A nice lot you have there. Most of the badges are self-explanatory but here are some comments for you: A. This is a patch (worn at top of back of a NZ soldier's tunic) for the 2nd Battalion of the Canterbury Infantry Regiment, red over blue, so your illustration is on its side. B. These are 3 years service stripes worn point upwards on the lower right sleeve of tunic. C. Is a Marine Light Infantry collar badge. D. Is an Artillery or Engineers collar badge, also worn by Fusilier Regiments on the shoulder strap with title. E. Is a hat badge. F. As you say, a Royal Navy button. G. Is a souvenir brooch. J. New Zealand Mounted Rifles shoulder title, correct. M. 20th Reinforcements collar badge. N. 13th (North Canterbury and Westland) Infantry Regiment hat badge. O. Rifle Brigade Reinforcement badge (SOYES FERME). P. Collar badge of 1st (Canterbury) Infantry Regiment Q. Collar badge of 25th Reinforcements. Hope this is of some help. Cheers, Tinto Last edited by Tinto; 04-01-13 at 01:35 AM. Reason: typo correction |
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Hi Tinto,
Thanks for your response. Are any particularly rare or unusual, or are these pretty basic badges for an NZ WWI collection? |
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HI guys ,
D. Is a Royal Artillery grenade , seven flames . Engineers have 9 flames . Jock |
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Hi Bungo,
All NZ Reinforcement badges fetch good prices (Roughly, hat badges about NZ$70.00+ and collars about NZ$40.00+) and the red/blue patch is valuable. Tinto |
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F. Indeed Royal Navy, petty officer
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An interesting family collection you have Bungo, they are all pieces of your grandfather's journey.
If you supply your grandfather's service number, we could possibly put them in the chronological order that he collected them. Just to add to Tinto's observations.- “A” could also be a “1st Battalion of the Canterbury Infantry Regiment patch.” “D” I concur with Tinto, it is a generic grenade badge that was worn in New Zealand on the collars by volunteer ordinary ranks of Artillery and Engineers, and the Wellington Guards wore white metal versions. They were also worn by NZ Territorial ordinary ranks of Artillery, Engineers, Railway Engineers and Signals. It might be worth posting the "H" cocade on the Wehrmacht Awards Forum if no one here can provide positive id. Last edited by atillathenunns; 05-01-13 at 01:06 AM. |
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