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Old 06-02-19, 07:41 PM
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Cross referencing EJ Martin's article of 1938 against the 1939 Army list shows the following missing ones. He stated 10 but in fact it was 13:

1. Bishop Veseys - Warwickshire Regiment badge.
2. Christ College Brecon - South Wales Borderers.
3. Coatham School - Green Howards.
4. Grimsby Municipal College - Lincolnshire regt.
5. Haberdasher Askes - School coat of arms badge. The cadet corps (closed 1930) had been 3rd Cadet Bn RF.
6. Hulme Grammar Manchester. School badge
7. King's College Wimbledon - School badge
8. King's School Rochester - school badge.
9. Lancing College - school badge
10. Morrisons school - school badge.
11. Mount St Mary's College - school cadet corps badge
12. Sherborne School - Dorsetshire regiment badge
13. West Buckland school - Devonshire Regiment.

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Old 09-03-19, 09:01 PM
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This may fit in your work Alan, re Hulme Grammar School OTC. When badges to this OTC turn up they are usually described as Hulme Grammar School, Oldham. That is NOT true. They belong to Hulme Grammar School, Manchester, a different school, but founded by the same person William Hulme. I have been in correspondance with Hulme Grammar School, Oldham and they didnt have an OTC. They did have a CCF which first began on 11.2.1941 as 601 (The Hulme Grammar School Oldham) Squadron, ATC.
On 1.9.1948 O.H.G.S. CCF replaced this unit and it was affiliated to the local T.A. Battalion, the 41st Royal Tank Regiment (T.A.), which was formally the 10th Bn. The Manchester Regiment prior to WW2. The Cadets wore the black beret and RTR cap badge.


I have 4 versions of the Hulme Grammar School badge.

The first is the all WM lions head (K&K 2576)

The second is the GM demi-lion and scrolls with H.G.S and Cadet Corps thereon (K&K 2577)

The 3rd is a GM demi-lion and scrolls as above but with H.G.S. and O.T.C. theron.

My 4th is just a Bz OSD badge of the second version

K& K also perpetuate the myth that this is in Oldham.
Hulme School Manchester set up a cadet corps in 1915. The cadet corps badge is the one in K&K. It then became a OTC. The OTC badge had an amended scroll.

The cadet corps badge was replaced by the OTC version when the school OTC was granted OTC status. The CC continued to run in parallel for the younger boys. This change of status is dated by the school history:

In October, 1935 the School Cadet Corps, on the strength of its record, was one of seven units chosen by the War Office from 194 applicants for promotion to the status of Officers Training Corps. The School unit was attached to the Manchester Regiment and received much help from its officers in the early years of its altered status.

https://www.whgs-academy.org/Portals...0of%20WHGS.pdf

The single lion head badge does not belong to that school cadet unit as far as I can find. Hulme GS Manchester have come back to me about their CCF cap badge and confirmed that the cadets wore the Manchester Regiment cap badge after the OTC/CC one. This rules out the single lion head being a CCF badge from either Hulme Manchester or Oldham schools and strongly suggest that K&K and Rawlins misidentified K&K 2576 as a cadet badge.

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Old 09-03-19, 09:31 PM
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I had the great pleasure of attending Ottershaw boarding school in the 1970ís. during that time we had a CCF run by Peter Curtis (Science teacher when not running cadets). The Army part wore a Queens cap badge.
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Old 13-08-19, 10:24 AM
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http://www.mindenmilitaria.com/viewp...h=56714&phqu=2

I am absolutely certain that the school wore the first pattern round OTC badge as a cap and as a sporran badge. In 1937 they had adopted the Cameronians bonnet badge which they wore alongside the first pattern badge on their sporrans.

The Corporation badge shown was worn by the Glasgow Corporation staff and interestingly one with an 'Education' scroll was recently sold on ebay.

Once again an error in K&K is the source of the mis-information.
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Old 13-08-19, 10:35 AM
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For my parent's sins I am an Old Wilsonian.
I served in the RAF section of the CCF from 1981-1986
I half hinched the brass cap badge from the Army section hut in the Mid 80s, there were many lying around in those days. Nearly all the pictures showed the scrollless badge. There were certainly no scrolled badges lying around! Can't say I saw any in the early pictures either.
The silver badge is the prefects badge.
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Old 14-08-19, 08:48 AM
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Matti

Thanks for taking the time to show that. It's a badge that I have never been able to get hold of possibly because it is hard to attribute as it has no CCF reference.

Alan
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No worries, my pleasure.
I may even be persuaded to part with it.
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Old 14-08-19, 09:46 AM
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Having reread the thread I can add the following.
The animal on the front is actually a wolf. Yes! Hard to belive but it is.
In the eraly 1980s it was discovered that the school did not, as it thought, have a coat of arms.
The chair of governors, himself a veteran of WWI paid for a coat of arms to be registered.
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