CEF Book Project- 1st Bn

[LLWill]

1st Bn has 3 design variants:
ONT/1/CANADA, WESTERN/1/ONTARIO, WESTERN/1/ONT
plus Interim Badge 1/CANADA

ONT/1/CANADA has 3 reported Maker Variants for OR's. No reported Offr Badge
OR Badge: Hicks, Gaunt, Tiptaft

WESTERN/1/ONTARIO has one reported Maker Variant for OR and Offr
OR and Offr Badge: Tiptaft

WESTERN/1/ONT Maker is Unknown for OR badge, No reported Offr badge

Requested Images:
ONT/1/CANADA OR Badge Gaunt and Tiptaft.

WESTERN/1/ONTARIO OR Badge Tiptaft
Information on an Offr Badge

WESTERN/1/ONT
Information on Offr Badge

Please ONLY badges that are Maker stamped

Thanks

[whizzbang]

Hi All,

Attached is what I think is an officer’s badge WESTERN/1/ONTARIO by Tiptaft (marked) as requested by Larry. It is on an officer’s cap, pretty sure its original to the cap. It looks almost identical to the OR though the overlay appears to be silver and the gilt maybe slightly better quality.

Interested in members comments for potential inclusion in the CEF book.

Cheers, Ian.

[servicepub]

Hopefully the page will be of sufficiently good quality to be of use.
This is the 1st Bn as it stands today. If you can provide images of a badge not shown here please forward to Larry. This can be a cap, collar, shoulder badge, a cloth unit title, formation patch or a sweetheart pin - not to forget a button.
Cheers,
Clive

[manchesters]

Hello,

I think it would be very useful to include the types of fittings on the badges as well as the other information you have already included.

Canadian badges do seem to have an array of different rear fittings, such as loops; 3 long blades; 2 pairs of blades; pin & catch; slider (british manufacture).

regards

[LLWill]

Ian:
Interesting!!
I have the same badge and last night I had a real good look at it and came to almost the same conclusion. Officers – Tiptaft! But!!!

Subdued Gilt, Flat back, Maker Mark Tiptaft B’Ham (center upper rear), Lugs E-W, Lugs Half round wire-splayed feet.
It is the front that makes me wonder? The “T” in Ontario looks like it is plated as there is a spot that is “chipped” and it seems to be another color of metal under the silver???

So ? Is there a OR’s badge that looks “Gilted”, somewhat a subdued Gilt, with a white metal plated center device????
That would make two (2) finish varieties for the OR badge – Browning Brass and Subdued Gilt??????

Or

The center (front) device is “PLATED” and it is the badge finish that makes it Offr or OR. Browning = OR, Gilt (or subdued gilt)=Offr

I am leaning towards it being Offr, mainly because of the construction, a solid heavy, flat back, design details (leaf veins) on the back. Hopefully someone out there has the OR's Browning Brass badge and we can compare construction details.

Food for thought

[Bill A]

Clive, The battle patch in the 1st Bn page is for the 5th Bn, 2nd Bde 1 Division. It should be a green circle over the red division patch. (ref, Nicholson, Canadian Expeditionary Force 1914-1919, and Law, Distinguishing Patches.)

[fougasse1940]

Originally Posted by manchesters

Hello,

I think it would be very useful to include the types of fittings on the badges as well as the other information you have already included.

Canadian badges do seem to have an array of different rear fittings, such as loops; 3 long blades; 2 pairs of blades; pin & catch; slider (british manufacture).

regards

Better still, a pic of the reverse.

Rgds, Thomas.

[Bill A]

Fastening devices will be covered, probably in a general overview. It may be set up in a manner that it can be cross referenced for all the badges.