Unknown cap badge world war 1

[AussieNick]

Hello, this is my first post here so i hope i have attached everything correctly.

I'm trying to establish my grandfathers trench cap badge in my attached photo..

I know he served in the 16th Highland Light Infantry and the 10th Scottish Rifles during the first world war. I've also attached a photo of him in his HLI uniform...I know his serial # for the HLI was 41026 and his serial # for the Scottish Rifles was 25929.. but i don't have any other serial numbers for any other units and his cap badge in the supplied photo does not look like anything I have seen online for either HLI or the Scottish Rifles.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Nick.

[Bill A]

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[tarabelle]

Hi
The 2nd badge looks like city of London Fusiliers
Hope that's helps


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[Alan O]

The bonnet badge is for the Highland Light Infantry and the second peaked cap is the Royal Fusiliers.

The Scottish Rifles were also called the Cameronians in case you see a reference to them.

[Luke H]

Some TF Bns of the HLI wore Black Watch style badges with the difference being the writing on the scrolls e.g. https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...pictureid=2940

The second badge is Royal Fusiliers as already stated.

Luke

[Jelly Terror]

Examples of the Royal Fusilers cap badge:

[AussieNick]

Thankyou tarabelle i'll look into the City of London Fusiliers

[AussieNick]

Thanks Alan O ... I have seen the name Cameronians around and was wondering if the 10th scottish rifles were part of them .

[AussieNick]

Thanks Luke H....do you think my grandfather is likely wearing the version you sent the reference to?

[AussieNick]

Thanks Jelly Terror this example you sent does look like the one on his peek cap...I have no documentation/ serial number of him being in the Royal Fusilers though....i think the family must have always assumed the uniform in that photo was from one of the Bns we knew he served in..

[Alan O]

The 10th battalion were a war-raised Battalion (known as a Service Battalion) so wore the standard bonnet badge and not the Territorial version that Luke mentions.

from the LLT website:

10th (Service) Battalion
Formed at Hamilton in September 1914 and came under orders of 46th Brigade in 15th (Scottish) Division. Moved to Bordon and in February 1915 went into billets at Winchester. Moved to Park House and Chisledon Camps (Salisbury Plain) in April 1915.
Landed at Boulogne 10 July 1915.

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/...ottish-rifles/

[leigh kitchen]

Looks like 3 overseas service chevrons are being worn in the HLI image?
The shoulder titles in both the HLI and RF images appear to be compatible with the headress badges.
The HLI image - the trousers are of a different shade and fabric to the jacket, could they be riding breeches for mounted duties, or civilian trousers with items of uniform donned for the photo?

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by AussieNick

Thanks Luke H....do you think my grandfather is likely wearing the version you sent the reference to?

Apologies for the confusion, no. Although initially I wasn’t sure as the badge looked rather ‘tall’ like a BW (HLI’s are fairly square and squatter) albeit due to the sitter’s position little over half the badge’s width is actually visible. However if you look closely you can see a oval shadow which is the opening of the bugle horn and if you look very closely indeed the ‘Assaye’ scroll is just about visible as a slightly darker horizontal smear. It is indeed a HLI badge.

[AussieNick]

Yes I can see what you mean about it being tall..my photos are not probably the clearest photos for identifying minute details

[AussieNick]

Yes he has 3 service chevrons on the right sleeve.
In terms of the riding breeches i'm not sure....Dad say's he can't remember his father ever telling him he rode a horse during the war....having said that he says he never really spoke of the war at all.
Dad says he tried researching the photo about 10 years ago and and was told that the photo might have been taken late or even soon after the war because of the three service chevrons on his sleeve...So i guess it's possible they could be civilian trousers....