Bronzed Norfolk Regiment OR's cap badge

[Nozzer]

Alas Rob, I think you are right we will probably never know

[Jelly Terror]

Not that this will make much difference to proceedings, but is the badge definitely 'bronzed' and not just a bit manky?

[Hoot]

I recall that many years ago I was told that 2nd Bn. Norfolk Regiment, on adoption of the slouch hat during the 2nd Boer War, wore a bronzed version of the cap badge on the upturned brim of the hat. I also understand they were not the only ones to do so.

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by Jelly Terror

Not that this will make much difference to proceedings, but is the badge definite 'bronzed' and not just a bit manky?

Definitely bronzed.

Originally Posted by Hoot

I recall that many years ago I was told that 2nd Bn. Norfolk Regiment, on adoption of the slouch hat during the 2nd Boer War, wore a bronzed version of the cap badge on the upturned brim of the hat. I also understand they were not the only ones to do so.

Thanks Hoot, that is very interesting. I have a few photos from that period that I will go through later.

[Nozzer]

Well, I have had a look at the images that I have and there is nothing. I have looked through published images and they are teasingly distant or facing the wrong way. I can find nothing written either. The only clear image I have is of a slouch hat worn by 3VB Norfolk Regiment......Typical!

I don't suppose that you have any documentary evidence do you Hoot?

[Hoot]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Well, I have had a look at the images that I have and there is nothing. I have looked through published images and they are teasingly distant or facing the wrong way. I can find nothing written either. The only clear image I have is of a slouch hat worn by 3VB Norfolk Regiment......Typical!

I don't suppose that you have any documentary evidence do you Hoot?

Sorry Nozzer I don't. The subject came up in a dicussion many moons ago with a very knowledgeable collector, an ex-Grenadier and retired member of the Constabulary who knew his stuff, sadly he is no longer with us.

[Nozzer]

OK, thanks. I'm sure something willcome to light eventually.

[Fatherofthree]

Greetings Andy.

My daft two bobs worth.

Did the Regiment serve anywhere where they would have had Mess Servants?

I appreciate the badge is well made and from a good die, so not theatre made, but is this a possibility?

Regards

Brian.

P.S. A great Norfolk collection.

[Hoot]

Brian, mess servants were not allowed to wear the official pattern regimental badges. They very often wore unofficial badges with designs showing which regiment they were employed by but these were of a very different style to the official regimental patterns.

[Fatherofthree]

Many thanks for that.

I said it was a daft two bob's worth.

It's a subject I know absolutely nothing about, as evidenced by my post.

I have only a couple of what I believe are such items and neither are like the official Regimental badges.................so something else learnt.

Once again, many thanks.

Regards

Brian

[Nozzer]

Hey Brian

How are you?

[Fatherofthree]

Good morning Andy.

Still upright, breathing and above ground............ so alive.

Hope all is well with with you and yours, must have a chat soon.

Regards

Brian

[Nozzer]

I'll send you a PM in a bit

[Sonofacqms]

Originally Posted by Hoot

I recall that many years ago I was told that 2nd Bn. Norfolk Regiment, on adoption of the slouch hat during the 2nd Boer War, wore a bronzed version of the cap badge on the upturned brim of the hat. I also understand they were not the only ones to do so.

Having looked through this post again my conclusions are that it is an early version of the Norfolk Regt's badge having loops that was made in gilding metal as it did not need a g/m scroll added, also it was probably easier to add a bronze coating to ending with an even overall finish.

This was probably worn in South Africa as Hoot has mentioned.

Rob

[norfolk regt man]

Read once that the t6 cyclist blacked there cap and collar badges, I am sure it's in one of Neil story's books or maybe Neil's story books