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Old 11-05-19, 12:18 PM
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Default Brass Badge Fitting on OSD Cap - What Badge?

I've not seen this sort of fitting on an OSD cap before.
I wondered if it was the fitting to take the slidered version of the Royal Northumberland Fusiliers officer's gilt and silver badge, but it isn't. The badge fits but the slider is visible as it extends below the ball of the grenade and it's outside the fabric.
The cap is a "Herbert & Johnston" from the 1930's, the buttons indicate that the badge would be a staff officers lion and crown one, were they produced with compatible fittings?
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Old 11-05-19, 02:23 PM
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An OSD Royal Crest with N & S blades folded behind would probably slide on there.

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Old 11-05-19, 03:08 PM
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Thank you, that's what I suspected but wasn't sure.
By coincidence I was actually handling such a badge the day before yesterday (I received the cap today, no red cap band) and was intending to post photos of it for expert opinions as to whether it is a Staff Officer's or a Royal North Devon Yeomanry officer's badge (it is owned by somebody else, they will be keeping it). Unfortunately I didn't take measurements.
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Thank you, that's what I suspected but wasn't sure.
By coincidence I was actually handling such a badge the day before yesterday (I received the cap today, no red cap band) and was intending to post photos of it for expert opinions as to whether it is a Staff Officer's or a Royal North Devon Yeomanry officer's badge (it is owned by somebody else, they will be keeping it). Unfortunately I didn't take measurements.

Identical to mine https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...6&d=1554584344 in this thread https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...Devon+Yeomanry .

Given it’s the same die as the slidered badge I lean towards R1DY. However who’s to say on tags it’s not interchangeable and could be staff?
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Thanks for that.
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Presumably the tangs on the OSD finish Staff Officer's metal badge would pierce the detachable red band and fit into the brass socket.
Would the Staff Officer's badge be OSD metal or would it be bullion?
The buttons are ERVIII and so date to 1936, they are well worn, polished, so may be gilt rather than OSD bronzed.
I don't know what the form was at the time, bullion and gilt insignia or OSD.
The original owner of the cap, a RHA officer with WWI service must've kept the ERVIII buttons on the cap for longer than the few months that King Edward was on the throne.
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Think I've got it sussed now.
Brian Leigh Davis's "British Army Uniforms and Insignia of World War Two" states bullion badge and gilt buttons, the buttons on this cap date it to 1936, close enough to get a cigar?

Sold as a general's cap, it had no red band and a RF OSD badge attached, the badge's one raining horizontal blade flattened and slipped under the brass fitting.
I had queried with the seller whether the original owner had served in the Home Guard following retirement, but he didn't know.

It transpires that the officer (originally Royal Horse Artillery) was

Brigadier 1937,

Commanding Depot Royal Artillery, Woolwich 1939,

Major General Commanding Bombay District 1940-41,

Retired September 1941,

Commanding 7th City of London Battalion Home Guard 1943-45.

The suspicion that he simply removed the red band from his old Colonels / Brigadier's cap and fitted a RF badge to it (the easy way, bending the blade under the fitting rather than piercing a hole or holes in the fabric) for wear as Home Guard may be founded, the RF badge being "original" to the cap.
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