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East Surrey Regiment Anodised Aluminium Cap Badge and British Aluminium Company Card.
Just arrived, a mint condition East Surrey Regiment cap badge, slider marked to "J.R. GAUNT LONDON" mounted on a folding foolscap sized advertising card of the British Aluminium Company.
Presumably the advertising card was distributed with other unit badges which were perhaps produced by different manufacturers. The first time I've seen one of these cards. Edit: I typed "beret" badge - the badge is cap badge sized, it's not the beret badge. Last edited by leigh kitchen; 30-11-18 at 05:01 PM. Reason: Stupidity. |
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Norfolk House
Leigh,
Thanks, not something I have seen before. Norfolk House was General Eisenhowers SHAEF HQ in WW2 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_House
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Thanks for that, I'd Googled the obvious but hadn't noted the old SHAEF connection.
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Im pretty sure the East Surrey beret badge was never produced in a/a Leigh. I have no record of one in my archive.
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I think the beret badge is mentioned in "Anodised Aluminium" as unauthorised in A/A and produced by Gaunt (I may have that wrong, it may be the full size cap badge that is mentioned and shown).
My mistake in my original post, I typed "beret" instead of "cap" badge. |
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Hi Guys,
The East Surrey in beret size with Tudor Crown was certainly authorised for issue but I have never heard of one. LIST OF CHANGES In War Materiel and of Patterns of Military Stores which have been approved and sealed for LAND AND AIR SERVICE Volume LXII List Of Changes dated 31st January 1952 - Change Numbers C 4818 to C 4855 Badges, Cap, Change Number C 4824 Unit Name CB No. Designation Designation Notes The East Surrey Regiment [Small] A.A. CB 3087 G.M. CB 2450 The East Surrey Regt., Small NEW PATTERN. A pattern (No. 14736) of the above-mentioned cap badge has been sealed to govern future manufacture for wear in the Beret and is here-by introduced. The new pattern differs from the old pattern (No. 4706) Cat. No. CB 0340 in that it is reduced in size. The later will continue to be worn in Forage and Service Dress Caps. 7th Dec., 1951-54/Vocab./153 27th Sept. 1951/Encl. 70 to 54/Officers/4025 I.C./C/1190 It was sealed on the 27th September 1951. However, the cards used were the older GM/WM examples with Tudor Crown updated to A/A use. For the cap version in St. Edwards Crown: Badges, Cap; Change Number C 8866 Unit Name CB No. Designation Designation Notes 23rd London Regiment (East Surrey) (TA) CB 8064 23 London INTRODUCTION. A pattern (No. 17608) has been sealed to govern future manufacture and is hereby introduced. The badge is an eight pointed star in silver colour, surmounted by the St. Edward’s Crown and circle in gold colour. Within the circle, a lion Couchant guardant in front of a Castle the centre tower charged with an escutcheon of the Arms of Kingston-upon-Thames with scroll underneath. 2nd Oct., 1958-54/Vocab./1425 28th Jan., 1958-Encl. 47/16 to 54/Officers/4051 I.C.-C./1054 (D.I.S.C. 1731) I show a St. Edwards Beret version on page 605 of my book as although I have yet to find evidence of it being officially authorised in St. Edwards Crown they most certainly do exist. The example shown by Leigh looks to be the beret version with correct Gaunt slider and marking from the period. It is also a match for the entry in my book. All this aside - the advertising card of the British Aluminium Company is spectacular and I wish I had one to display when I wrote my book. Regards, Chris |
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Please can you say what the dimensions are? Mainly, how high is the badge, from base of scroll, to tip of crown? Many thanks and congratulations again. Awra best William |
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Thanks, will do, I did measure it and then forgot to post the dimensions.......
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Hi Gents
I have one of these anodised East Surrey cap badges in my collection. It is ident to Leigh's one shown above, having the Gaunt London mark on the slider. It is a cap badge not a beret badge and measures 45mm from the tip of the crown to the lowest point of the scroll beneath the letter 'S'. As documented at length above, they are uncommon, but do turn up. Never seen a beret size anodised and to my knowledge there are no anodised collars. I do however have an anodised button, which has a Kings crown. Regards all Bess |
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Thanks Bess,
Good to hear from you. Awra best. William Quote:
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I measure the badge I have as 43mm X 43mm with the width of the star being 35mm. I have one AA East Surrey's button, kings crown, fixed loop, 25mm diameter by ". BUTTONS LIMITED . BIRMINGHAM " |
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