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Old 25-11-19, 06:43 PM
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I was wondering if anyone else had a similar button a right facing three cannon artillery button. The back is somewhat corroded but it looks like S.Firmin Strand. I would think if it was a Royal artillery issue it was very short lived as I cant find one about.
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Old 25-11-19, 06:59 PM
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Never seen a button like that.

As the cannon are mounted on a Garrison Carriage maybe a Navy type.

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Old 25-11-19, 07:13 PM
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Its not in the bible on the subject, Buttons of the Royal Artillery" by Norman Litchfield.

Very similar buttons are in there to the regular artillery dating from the period c. 1785 - 1802.

A very similar one states, ..... These buttons were worn at a later date by some of the HEIC Artillery units before specific buttons were introduced for the Bengal, Bombay & Mdras Foot and Horse Artilleries.

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Old 26-11-19, 02:51 PM
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I've been told another identical button to this "was featured as an unknown Royal Artillery button in the Dec 2009 issue of "Button Lines" c.1793-1797" mounted on naval or garrison carriage. Still unknown, but in the Sept 2006 issue of B.L. there was a copper/gilt button, bone-backed, with the same gun/carriage facing right with the same pile of balls auctioned for 446 pounds. It came from the Norman Litchfield collection dated c.1770-80. There was the garrison that existed to defend the Royal Navy Dockyard in Bermuda from the 1790's, perhaps others"
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Old 26-11-19, 04:38 PM
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What a superb specimen, I think at my age I would be almost be prepared to give my Left *** for a button like that! Thanks for sharing the pic.! Regards, D.J.
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Old 26-11-19, 04:51 PM
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Manchesters, You mention the “Bible” on the subject of Royal Artillery buttons. Over the years, Ive found that every “Bible” has omissions and obviously these omissions are NOT the fault of the compiler. There are many buttons in Litchfield’s book that I do not (and will probably never) have. There again, I have British Artillery buttons that he does not show. The number of Volunteer Artillery buttons alone would be quite daunting to track down. If anyone were interested in seeing buttons NOT in Litchfield’s book, I would try and post a couple. Regards, David J.
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I was wondering if anyone else had a similar button a right facing three cannon artillery button. The back is somewhat corroded but it looks like S.Firmin Strand. I would think if it was a Royal artillery issue it was very short lived as I cant find one about.
From a list of Firmin details the back mark dates from 1770-1780.

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