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Old 01-10-16, 11:57 AM
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Spookily, this on ePay - how does date this? know this is correct? i will ask.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Royal-C...-/381789917832
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Old 01-10-16, 12:01 PM
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Then this one, does anyone know of a reference work? Many thanks

http://picclick.ca/CEF-WW2-Canada-Ca...257979527.html
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Old 01-10-16, 12:17 PM
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Well, some times ebay has it's use, one down two to go, it shows a Scully Mark on the left, mine has the same, different relief, lugs are in a different place, slightly different badge, hoorah!.
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Old 01-10-16, 05:19 PM
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I believe the small badge is an imperial one. The Canadian ones were not finished in that bright brass.
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Old 01-10-16, 05:26 PM
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Bill,.

I disagree.
I have bought several of these WW2 period beret badges from Canada and the colour and font is always similar.

never seen one anywhere other than in/from Canada.

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Old 01-10-16, 06:20 PM
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Hi Simon, The ones I have seen have a really odd set of fasteners. There is both a slider and lugs. Of interest the smaller pattern was approved in March of 1950. The dimensions are given as 1 13/16 in by 1 7/16 inches, and the finishes were gilt for officers and brass for other ranks. The authorization also specified the badges be fixed with a slider, and that the design was to be exactly the same as the large badge, reduced to 2/3 size.
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Old 01-10-16, 07:11 PM
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Gentlemen, i am most grateful for your comments, much appreciated. I have been fortunate to have spent a good part of the day looking at images of the cap badges, my grandfather i'm sure would be proud! The smaller badge is shown on a number of sites including Cdn ebay as -

A World War II cap badge for Royal Canadian Artillery. The badge is brass, measures 46 mm by 36 mm and comes complete with it's original lugs. Mazeas S.2a. This is the smaller variety with "Ubique".

I obviously need to find the reference 'Mazeas' but after looking at a few thousand pictures i'm pretty happy it is one and the same. That cannot be said of the middle example, i have found some pretty close but none exactly the same, it's colour etc is the same as some genuine labelled badges but it has a couple of distinct differences, the search unfortunately goes on!

Must admit i have enjoyed the looking (told my Mrs i was doing vital research!) i might even end up collecting these, so many types, do you know of this Mazeas reference?
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Old 01-10-16, 07:52 PM
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Hi Mark, Mazeas is the standard reference book for Canadian military badges. There are two separate books, one dealing with pre-1914 Canadian militia badges and the other is the 1920-1950 period.
Marway Militaria or Military Antiques Toronto may have a copies. http://www.marway-militaria.com/home.php or http://www.militaryantiquestoronto.com/shop.php.
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Old 01-10-16, 08:08 PM
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Thanks Bill, appreciated, it will answer another question for me, did the Militia Artillery have their own badge! I think i have two pictures showing the example i'm looking at, one says WW1 and the other WW2 what they both agree on is that it is a Canadian Badge, so good news. - appreciate your help on this one, Thank you.
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I'm confused, the Canadian 2/3rds beret badge was wartime issue and preceded the British one?

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Old 02-10-16, 10:26 AM
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Hi Thomas,
2/3rd beret badge?
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Old 02-10-16, 11:20 AM
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Hello Thomas, The 2/3rd size badge was issued after 1950. There was no smaller size badge for the RCA prior to that date.
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Thanks Bill, so Mazeas has it wrong?

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Old 02-10-16, 07:32 PM
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I think so. The documentation from the archive files on the issue of smaller badges indicate that they were not approved until the 1950's. There was no indication that a previous small badge had ever been worn. That raises a question about the CANADA banner pattern too. Were they worn?
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Hello MarkGD and others. I am leaning toward the applied wheel badge in the first post and the centre badge of the preceding post to this as being Canadian issue of WW11 vintage. The cascabel shape and the more rounded upper scroll are my points of reference. Hope this doesn't throw a spanner in the works! As I've stated before, I am definitely not an expert but Arty badges are my only collecting field in badges. regards, D.J.
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