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Wylie plated and standard.
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#32
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Thanks for the photos but they don't convince me that the badge was originally manufactured with the 'finer jeweller type hinge'.
I think both the badges shown have , at some point , been repaired/modified. The basic brass one looks to have had the lower 'catch' replaced and the plated one had the pin fitting replaced with a newer (jeweller hinge) one. Lots of badges turn up with one or both attachments damaged , missing , or replaced this may be due to the fittings being badly brazed (?) making the attachment weak. Both badges shown appear to have an 'oval footed' replacement which is not normally seen on these badges. The other 'plated' examples I have seen : 1. Gaunt (jeweller hinge) - In post #1 , I think this was a basic badge that has been made to look like a more expensive plated one. 2. Gaunt (basic fitting) - On Sally Bosley's site (search 57891) , a nickel plated badge that could have been 'plated' any time after it was issued. 3. Described as "appears to be nickel plated as there's brass showing through on the bottom left corner" (basic fitting) - From an old post , no back view but angle of pin would indicate a basic fitting. N.B - I am definitely not immediately assuming that these badges cannot have existed but I am just trying to find proof either way. Tom Tulloch-Marshall's article (which was published in 2 parts in MHS Bulletins) was well researched including Ministry of Munitions files and yet made no mention of 'special' badges : Quote:
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I have never actually handed a nickel plated example of the 1916 badge that shows any signs of having been repaired, although, I cannot comment upon those that I have not, to give an opinion just from a photograph would be very difficult.
I will have a look at the other examples and I will raise this matter on Wednesday with the secretary of the MHS who has collected these badges for a number of decades, I have to say that I am very surprised that the published work you refer to does not mention nickel plated examples of these badges, which I have never regarded as special in any way whatsoever. Quote:
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#34
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I have this example:
Wlyie plated with brass showing through at bottom right corner. Tim
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One from an old auction , described as 'white metal' , the top fitting is a basic one and it looks like the bottom 'catch' has been repaired/replaced by an 'oval footed' one.
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gaunt and Wylie examples:
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Thanks , the more examples ..... the more confusion !
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Close up of 2 Wylie ones, one nickel, one brass - no obvious repair that my eyes can see....
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Very nice, I don't have any examples of the plated badge with the sheet metal hinge, but, many do remain extant.
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Looks like I was wrong and I guess I'll have to keep digging to see if I can find any documentation about these badges. NB - I see that the badges posted have a wide range of numbers (66*** to 350***) , so were probably manufactured over the 3 years they were issued. .
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The oval pds are normally soft soldered on and are very thin guage metal and would be a lot more expensive than a cut length of brass tube or piece of bent wire for the C catch, I'd say most of these have been repaired at some point.
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Plates between the hinge and the reverse of many brooches were fairly commonplace and in no way signify a repair, as you suggested in post thirty two, I was talking to a local jeweller this morning who also sells vintage brooches including Great War sweethearts and he pointed out that so many are actually in unworn condition so very clearly have not been subject to any repair whatsoever.
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#43
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Also the fact that 'plated' badges from Gaunt and Wylie are around with both hinge and basic fittings . I'm probably overthinking this and would just like to thank you and the others who have patiently and politely put up with my ramblings ! .
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Marble 1916 OWS badge
While digging around I spotted an interesting story about a "munitionette".
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Hey Mike,
the discussion, wherever it leads, and whatever the outcome (or lack thereof) is the interesting part. No theories, wild or sensible, should be discounted until they are proven wrong or right. Workshopping things like this is a pleasure with the members here, and your input is always appreciated and valued. The fact it is so unclear makes it, to me, more interesting, and hearing differing views gets me thinking. I do appreciate the ramblings! How very nice it has been done in a most respectful way by all here. And what a super find on poor Rose. cheers, Tim |
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