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Old 12-01-09, 03:23 PM
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Question Australian Orders of Battle WW2.

Does anyone know of a book or other documentary source for an orbat for the Australian Army in WW2? Ideally I would like the equivalent of the British Joslen, if Australia ever produced such a thing. The query is in connection with a project to catalogue a collection of Australian patches.

I have also been looking, without success, for copies of the following:
ARMY COLOUR PATCH REGISTER 1915 - 1949.
Alfred Festburg's LINEAGE OF THE AUSTRALIAN ARMY.
Stephen Tauberg's FORMATION SIGNS AND VEHICLE MARKINGS OF THE AUSTRALIAN ARMY 1903 - 1983.

It would be too much to expect anyone to have copies of these for sale but if anyone can suggest a likely specialist book dealer in Australia I would be grateful. I feel a bit cut off here in Warwickshire in the UK!
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Old 12-01-09, 04:16 PM
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Hello BEFman and welcome to the Forum. As for your search, here is a source from Diggerhistory. Perhaps you will find what you are looking for but, be advised that this list is probably not complete or up-to-date for all the units. We were told by fellow Aussies members that sometimes there are mistakes in this website, so be careful in taking this as gospel.
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Old 12-01-09, 05:57 PM
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I agree with Jo - I would only rate the site at about 6/10 for accuracy.

Plenty of errors on there I'm afraid.

Mick
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Old 12-01-09, 11:44 PM
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Yes be careful of the site. Generally good but quite a few errors. I have advised him of some corrections but never heard back or saw them changed.
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Old 13-01-09, 02:01 AM
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Does anyone know of a book or other documentary source for an orbat for the Australian Army in WW2? Ideally I would like the equivalent of the British Joslen, if Australia ever produced such a thing. The query is in connection with a project to catalogue a collection of Australian patches.

I have also been looking, without success, for copies of the following:
ARMY COLOUR PATCH REGISTER 1915 - 1949.
Alfred Festburg's LINEAGE OF THE AUSTRALIAN ARMY.
Stephen Tauberg's FORMATION SIGNS AND VEHICLE MARKINGS OF THE AUSTRALIAN ARMY 1903 - 1983.

It would be too much to expect anyone to have copies of these for sale but if anyone can suggest a likely specialist book dealer in Australia I would be grateful. I feel a bit cut off here in Warwickshire in the UK!
You're very unlikely to find a copy of The Colour Patch Register commercially available, as this appears to have been produced in very limited quantity by the Dept of Defence for use by military personnel.

If you PM me your postal address, I'll send you a photocopy of an article that appeared about 20 years ago in Sabretache, the journal of the Military Historical Association of Australia, giving a succinct outline of how the AIF orbats evolved in WW2. It won't, however, solve all the issues re the militia and so forth, which can get very complicated.
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Old 13-01-09, 03:29 AM
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Hello BEFman and welcome to the Forum. As for your search, here is a source from Diggerhistory. Perhaps you will find what you are looking for but, be advised that this list is probably not complete or up-to-date for all the units. We were told by fellow Aussies members that sometimes there are mistakes in this website, so be careful in taking this as gospel.
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Jo
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-..._of_battle.htm
This is probably a more reliable and comprehensive site:
http://www.defence.gov.au/army/ahu/i...ndex.htm#index
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Old 17-01-09, 02:17 PM
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Many thanks.

Mike Taylor.

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Old 17-01-09, 02:23 PM
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Thanks to all who replied. Very helpful.

Apologies also. When I made my enquiry I forgot I was going to be away for a few days so my failure to respond in a timely manner is not rudeness, just the anno domini effect on the memory!
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Old 19-01-09, 12:42 AM
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Many thanks for the offer. I am at 38 Hawthorn Way, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire, CV36 4FD, UK. I hope I can reciprocate in some way in the future.

Mike Taylor.
OK, Mike -- I'll try and organise this soon.
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Many thanks for the offer. I am at 38 Hawthorn Way, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire, CV36 4FD, UK. I hope I can reciprocate in some way in the future.

Mike Taylor.
Mike,
I'll post you a copy of the article today. Apologies for the delay -- I haven't had access to a photocopier for a while.
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Hi,
I can recommend the following bookshops in Australia, having visited both in the last few weeks:

Alexander Fax Booksellers, Southlands Shopping Centre, Mawson, ACT. (www.alexanderfaxbooks.com.au)- stocks secondhand books, specialising in military & transport. He had copies of Festburg badge books and something on colour patches but I didn't take much interest so cannot recall if they were what you are chasing.

Highlands Bookshop, Level 1, 29-31 Heffernan Lane, Melbourne.
(www.hylandsbookshop.com.au)- stocks a vast range of new military & transport books.

Regards, Stephen.
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Hi,
I can recommend the following bookshops in Australia, having visited both in the last few weeks:

Alexander Fax Booksellers, Southlands Shopping Centre, Mawson, ACT. (www.alexanderfaxbooks.com.au)- stocks secondhand books, specialising in military & transport. He had copies of Festburg badge books and something on colour patches but I didn't take much interest so cannot recall if they were what you are chasing.

Highlands Bookshop, Level 1, 29-31 Heffernan Lane, Melbourne.
(www.hylandsbookshop.com.au)- stocks a vast range of new military & transport books.

Regards, Stephen.
Don't forget Regimental Books (http://www.regimental-books.com.au) - they give good deals to forum members.

Mick

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Safely arrived - thanks.
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I have a spare copy of the Colour Patch Register - but the postage will be the killer as it is quite a heavy book.

Phil Blackwell
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I have a spare copy of the Colour Patch Register - but the postage will be the killer as it is quite a heavy book.

Phil Blackwell
That's a very generous offer. If you can let me know how much you want for the book, and get at least an idea of the postage, I will see if I can sneak the cost past the Chief of Staff. Trouble is, with the banks the way they are over here at the moment, the third mortgage may be a bit difficult!

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