KE VII RE badge

[iaindh]

Hi all,

I was so pleased when I picked up this King Edward VII RE badge from an Internet site, only when it arrived did I notice that a nice neat rectangular hole had been punched through the bottom of the garter. Obviously with the slider behind it wasnt too noticeable.

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Does anyone know why someone would do this to such a nice badge. Is it something Royal Engineers do perhaps?

Iain

[tonyb]

Iain, would guess it is a Militia? badge,have seen these EviiR badges with a small White Metal M just where your badge has the rectangular void, this could be the sweat hole for the M.
Cheers Tony.

[iaindh]

Hi Tony,

that's very interesting. I did think with such a neat hole, there may be a reason for it.
Does anyone perhaps, have an example they could post?

Thanks,

Iain

[engr9266]

Here is the EDV11R one with the M and aslo a GV!R

[iaindh]

Hi Jerry,

thanks, it looks about right. I never knew RE Militia existed but googling earlier it came up with Royal Monmouthshire RE Militia and also Anglesea RE Militia having been in the 2nd Boer war. It did show a recent Monmouth badge; would they have worn the same badge at one time?

regards,

Iain

[engr9266]

Originally Posted by iaindh

Hi Jerry,

thanks, it looks about right. I never knew RE Militia existed but googling earlier it came up with Royal Monmouthshire RE Militia and also Anglesea RE Militia having been in the 2nd Boer war. It did show a recent Monmouth badge; would they have worn the same badge at one time?

regards,

Iain

Iain, Got this bit of information but cannot find when the unit started to wear the PoW plume badge could be around 1877 but unsure. If you contact them on curator@monmouthcastlemuseum.org.uk I am sure they will assist you. The badges are shown in both volumes of K&K

Originally a militia (infantry) unit charged with home defence, if became an Engineer unit in 1877 and a Royal Engineer unit in 1896. From 1896 it is also became the only regiment with two "Royals" in it's title and is the only Royal Engineer unit whose members wear the Prince of Wales Division cap badge and the militia flash instead of a Brigade affiliation.

[iaindh]

Hi Jerry,

sorry I didnt mean for you to go to a lot of trouble. I didnt even think to look in K&K, it is so user unfriendly, I tend to google more.
I've just checked K&K now; its number 1944. It doesnt give dates for when the RM REM badge was sealed.
It is quite curious that it has 2 "Royals" in the corps title.

Can I ask one more thing, if I may; can you post a pic of the reverse side?

Many thanks and regards,

Iain

[engr9266]

Originally Posted by iaindh

Hi Jerry,

sorry I didnt mean for you to go to a lot of trouble. I didnt even think to look in K&K, it is so user unfriendly, I tend to google more.
I've just checked K&K now; its number 1944. It doesnt give dates for when the RM REM badge was sealed.
It is quite curious that it has 2 "Royals" in the corps title.

Can I ask one more thing, if I may; can you post a pic of the reverse side?

Many thanks and regards,

Iain

No trouble Iain, Bit Which badge do you want the back of ? Militia or RMRE(M)

[iaindh]

Hi Jerry,

Thanks, its the reverse of the RE M not the RE RM (M) I would like to see.

Many thanks again & regards

Iain

[engr9266]

Originally Posted by iaindh

Hi Jerry,

Thanks, its the reverse of the RE M not the RE RM (M) I would like to see.

Many thanks again & regards

Iain

I have not forgotten this request, the badge in question has a slider and due to this I cannot get a clear picture of the way the M is fixed. I don't want to bend the slider out just in case I do some damage to it.
It seems that a "stud" of wm on the back of the M was pushed through the hole then flattened out and the excess metal removed. I hope this is of help to you.
Jerry.

[54Bty]

Those that I have seen (do not have) have the M fitted in the same manner as the wheel on the RA Officers badge.

Marc

[iaindh]

Thanks Jerry, Marc, you've made it quite clear now

regards,

Iain