the gun

[silverwash]

gone through postings etc. but couldn't find anything similar. is a north / south lug configuration unusual ?

[fougasse1940]

Not for British RA badges, might be Commonwealth?

Rgds,

Thomas.

[silverwash]

you could be right. spoke to an aquaintance who collects on a broad church basis and he has a Canadian RA GS Cap with badge that has East-West lugs.

[Grady]

Hi silverwash, I have one by Scully with North / South lugs but it's QE crown and of course it's for RCA (identical to RA in most parts except for style of crown). It's difficult for me to determine between Canadian and British Arty. badges if they are unmarked by maker from late WW11 untill 1953! (i.e. KC.) ......Regards, David J.

[Artynut]

Hi silverwash, I have one by Scully with N/S lugs but it's QE crown and of course for the RCA. All of my Canadian "King's" crown are blades sliders or E/W lugs. That being said, I have to admit that I cannot determine what differences there are between British and Canadian Arty. badges from late WW11 till 1953 so you may have a Canadian one there. All the other Commonwealth Arty badges have "Country" distinguishing features about them. I'll now turn it over to 54bty!....He's the expert. Regards, DJ.

[2747andy]

There's also a possibility that it is a copy? The back certainly has the colour you find on many of the wonky RGA/RFA badges? They are mostly lugged too, with the same style of ridgebacked lugs?

Andy

[Bill A]

I have seen the n/s lugs on RCA badges that were worn on a pouch.

[silverwash]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

There's also a possibility that it is a copy? The back certainly has the colour you find on many of the wonky RGA/RFA badges? They are mostly lugged too, with the same style of ridgebacked lugs?

Andy

unfortunately my camera has emphasised the colour of the verdigris on the rear of the badge. I have given it a good scrub and will post fresh image tomorrow when it is daylight. also, given its provenance, I cannot imagine it to be a reproduction.
for Artynut, I concur with your statement about the British/Canadian Artillery anomaly.Given all their "own" badges I would have thought " CANADA " be incorporated somewhere in the design. there again my ignorance shows.

[54Bty]

[QUOTE=silverwash;153805]given its provenance, I cannot imagine it to be a reproduction. QUOTE]

If you have any provenance it should help to establish from which country the badge is from. Personally I have never seen a British Royal Regiment of Artillery brass cap or pouch badge with lugs like yours.

Marc

[Bill A]

The Canada banner gun badge was worn until 1935ish by the reserves. The permanent army artillery had been granted the designation Royal Canadian Artillery earlier, and had adopted the same pattern badge as the imperial Royal Artillery. The RCA badges are virtually indistinguishable from the RA badges, with perhaps the exception being that kc RCA badges were lugged. There is no national distinguishing feature that I am aware of on the RCA badges, unless they are maker marked.

[silverwash]

hello Marc, perhaps provenance was an unfortunate word to use. because I have had the thing fifty odd years I was alluding to the fact that it couldn't be a recent copy as in " wonky RGA/RFA badges ".

[fougasse1940]

The difference between Canadian and British KC Artillery badges, apart from lugs vs. slider, is the thickness off the gun barrel, the Canadian in general is about twice as thick as the british one and ends stumpier, whereas the British one ends with sharp edges.

Rgds,

Thomas.

[silverwash]

corroboration for the man. mate sent pic of his Canadian associated cap badge.

[fougasse1940]

That would be the Canadian badge as described above. Notice standard E/W lugs.

Rgds,

Thomas.

[jeanpit-frenchy]

hi

i have 3 cast RA gun badges with makers marks (FIRMIN LONDON)

one bronze with two blades (EW)
one gilding with 2 lugs (EW)

and one brass with 2 lugs (NS),

i imagine that it was in use for UK RA regiment