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Old 26-04-20, 06:16 PM
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Ok Toby, did'nt realise that. Ive got one somewhere, i would have brought it thinking it was Coldstream Guards. I'll try and dig it out.
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It must be an extremely rare badge, Andy. Please post an image if you find it.
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Old 27-04-20, 07:45 AM
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Hi All
Interesting thread. I have had this badge for quite a long time and have it listed as a Coldstream Guards WOs badge but looking at the images in post #25, I wonder if it isn't an RHG officers field cap badge? The photo doesn't really do it justice as the garter is nicely gilded and obviously a silver/gilt badge rather than plain silver like the usual Coldstream WO badges.
What do you guys think? CG or early RHG?
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Old 27-04-20, 08:24 AM
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Hi All
Interesting thread. I have had this badge for quite a long time and have it listed as a Coldstream Guards WOs badge but looking at the images in post #25, I wonder if it isn't an RHG officers field cap badge? The photo doesn't really do it justice as the garter is nicely gilded and obviously a silver/gilt badge rather than plain silver like the usual Coldstream WO badges.
What do you guys think? CG or early RHG?
Thanks, cheers,
Alex
Superb badge Alex, looking at the quality of the gilding, etc. that you’ve pointed out it looks to me to be the Royal Horse Guards insignia from their Torin style field service cap, as per the 1900 and 1904 dress regulations. Thank you for posting it.

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Old 27-04-20, 09:51 AM
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Hi all,

I'm adding this to the mix !!! as this hasn't been 100 % identified

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Old 27-04-20, 11:51 AM
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Thanks Toby, that is a very nice surprise for me. I have a couple of the CG WO badges and this is a better quality badge so it would make sense. I have wondered for a long time why this was silver/gilt rather than the plain silver.
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Old 27-04-20, 02:29 PM
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Its all in the apostrophe, if you look closer.
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I'm adding this to the mix !!! as this hasn't been 100 % identified

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A lady's brooch imho, i have seen an Irish Guards one also.
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Hi All
Interesting thread. I have had this badge for quite a long time and have it listed as a Coldstream Guards WOs badge but looking at the images in post #25, I wonder if it isn't an RHG officers field cap badge? The photo doesn't really do it justice as the garter is nicely gilded and obviously a silver/gilt badge rather than plain silver like the usual Coldstream WO badges.
What do you guys think? CG or early RHG?
Thanks, cheers,
Alex
Coldstream Guards Alex, its missing the apostrophe.
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Old 27-04-20, 02:58 PM
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Coldstream Guards Alex, its missing the apostrophe.
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My understanding from all reference material is that the Coldstream Guards version of this design of insignia is all in white metal, Andy, whereas for the Royal Horse Guards version the garter part is gilded.

Looking at the illustrations from the dress regulations of 1900 and 1904, both, the Life Guards and the Royal Horse Guards garter stars clearly show the apostrophe.

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Old 27-04-20, 03:22 PM
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Im just going off Dress Regs 1900, Alex's is different.
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Old 27-04-20, 03:28 PM
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Bill,

Great find !!! when you brought this did you realise this wasn't an Coldstream guards WO Star ???

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Here is a photograph of a genuine RHG cap star as in the 1900 and 1904 Officers Dress Regs.

There may be many more of these around (and 1LG versions) as I bought this as a "fire damaged" Coldstream Guards WO star. For "fire damaged" read black tarnish.

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Old 27-04-20, 03:37 PM
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Im just going off Dress Regs 1900, Alex's is different.
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I’m not sure what you mean, Andy. In both the 1900 and 1904 DRs the 1st Life Guards and Royal Horse Guards field service cap garter stars have apostrophes. Is it possible that on Alex’s badge the apostrophe is dislodged, or that it’s a manufacturer’s variation (both seemingly unlikely I admit)? The reason I ask is how else can we explain the distinctive gilding, which in terms of appearance seems more significant.
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Could the silver plating have been worn off to show gilding metal ?
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Andy,

looking at Bill's example , Alex's badge is Coldstream guards

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Old 27-04-20, 04:02 PM
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Could the silver plating have been worn off to show gilding metal ?
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I’m not sure Andy, my understanding is that gilding/gilt (not gilding-metal, which is a brass alloy) goes on top of silver metal, not beneath it.
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