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#31
29-03-10, 02:45 PM
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Royal Dragoons eagles' comparison
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Is this what you wanted? (The black backing is as was worn on the Field Service Cap.) Best wishes Gordon 
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#33
29-03-10, 03:41 PM
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a/a cap badge
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I'll try and help with this one. I have an anodised aluminim badge for the Regiment made by Firmin London & a Gaunt B'ham. Peter Taylors book says the a/a badge was sealed in 1963 ( 30th Dec ). I believe Hagwalther has discovered sealed patterns for Gaunt B'ham earlier than 1969. This imo would make the badge feasable that it was issued to the Regt. Whether they chose to wear it is an entirely different matter! Regards. UKbrits
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#34
29-03-10, 03:46 PM
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You beat me to the sealed date. 1963 would be about right for a change over to a/a but you are quite right about whether the regt chose to wear them being another matter! (I suspect not judging by the attitudes of most of the cavalrymen).
I await Hagwalther's book with avid interest to see what information he will be publishing about a/a. Alan
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#35
29-03-10, 03:54 PM
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Dimesions are thus: 1915-19 :- Height = 32mm & Width = 25mm 1948-69 :- Height = 38mm & Width = 29mm So yes, the 1915-19 is smaller and the picture in Gaylor's book is accurate 
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Last edited by GriffMJ; 29-03-10 at 04:31 PM.
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#37
02-04-10, 07:40 PM
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Here is the 1st (Royal) Dragoons 1915-19 Eagle being worn c1920
*** I think the 13th Hussar is incorrect (might be a 12th Lancer)....suggestions please  LYPAO Permanent Staff SSM W N Jones (Right) Seated right: -William Neville Jones was a 7th Dragoon Guard, he transferred to the LYPAO 24 Aug 1920 Extended tour of duty in 1923, 1924 and 1925 until (writing unclear) termination of engagement 7. 5. 1927. In 1923 his address was Drill Hall, Oakham and on his death he was buried in Sysonby, Melton Mowbray. After his service within the LY he had a long association with the Remount Depot (RAVC) in Melton Mowbray. His Great War record shows that he was also part of the Machine Gun Corps (Cav) in 1916 and this might indicate an association with Major E R Hanbury LYPAO (Oakham) who was also part of the MGC(Cav) before his death in Flanders (see WW1 page PAOYEOMANRY, Major E R Hanbury) , hence the link with the LY. (Many thanks to Roger Jones, Netherlands, Grandson of William for the Picture)
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#39
02-04-10, 08:06 PM
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I thought 19th as well.... but the badges look oblong to me? The 1stRD is an Officer all the others are SSMs.
Update 29th/June/2014 :- The 1RD Officer is infact the Adjutant of the Leicestershire PAO Yeomanry, Captain Henderson 1RD. The photo was taken around 1922.
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Last edited by GriffMJ; 29-06-14 at 03:40 PM.
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#40
15-06-10, 09:47 PM
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The Eagle badges were never worn as collars as far as I am aware. They were manufactured at regimental level for use without official sanction and all the examples i have seen are slidered and have never been fitted with lugs. The eagle has been struck facing both east and west on a slider (no lugs) so i would pressume manufacturers variation on this. I stand to be corrected however.
Keep smiling, Dave
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Last edited by Alan O; 21-01-12 at 08:45 AM.
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#41
16-06-10, 07:55 PM
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1st The Royal Dragoons "eagles"
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If these are the ones to which you were referring this is a scan of both the cap and collar badges. Cap badge with slider, collars with lugs. Best wishes Gordon
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#42
16-06-10, 08:16 PM
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13th Hussars Cap badge?
*** I think the 13th Hussar is incorrect LYPAO Permanent Staff SSM W N Jones (Right)
Seated right: -William Neville Jones was a 7th Dragoon Guard, Hi Griff This is a very interesting photograph. Let's start with the Officer, clearly in the 1st Dragoons. He is wearing the badges at photo 1. Photo 2 shows the Arm Badge of the SSM 21st Lancers Photo 3 is the Arm Badge of SSM William Neville Jones, 7DG The SSM at the left of the picture is a bit of a mystery. The 13th Hussars did not wear an Arm badge but there is something showing beneath his badge of rank. If he were a 19th Hussar that would be a small elephant in silver or white metal which it clearly isn't. I don't think it's The Prince of Wales's plumes either so that rules out the 12th Lancers as has also been mentioned. I will do some digging but don't hold your breath! Incidentally do you see a "rounded" triangular black patch behind the 7DG arm badge or is it my imagination? Best wishes Gordon
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#43
16-06-10, 08:32 PM
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Hi Gordon
Its a great photo.... sent to me by a relative of SSM Jones. I will try and enhance it a bit further to get some close ups of each arm..... and do some "burning" to bring out any possible backings. mean while.... i think there is a black barathea/leather backing:- 
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#44
16-06-10, 09:38 PM
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Cheers, Dave
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#45
16-06-10, 10:31 PM
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