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Old 25-07-22, 07:36 PM
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Chris,What a well researched and excellent presented piece.
Thank you and well done !
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Old 25-07-22, 08:13 PM
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Thank you, Chris, for a valuable comprehensive Ayrshire Yeomanry resource.
Cheers, John
Thanks John and Steve.
Just looked through it, a few missing bits!
I'll pop them next post.
Many thanks to Alan O for the tidy up, it was a bit all over the place.
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Old 25-07-22, 08:14 PM
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One I found years ago covered in verdigris.
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One I found years ago covered in verdigris.
Very nice, they're lovely Badges
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Front and back of the AY OCA members bazaar made badges, post 3 is missing photos.
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Old 25-07-22, 08:32 PM
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Thank you Chris. A very comprehensive and detailed study.

In your opinion where does the bi-metal version of Badge 5 fit in? This is the large OF badge, or as I refer to it - 'the oblong lion' - but with the head in w/m.
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Old 26-07-22, 11:17 AM
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Thank you Chris. A very comprehensive and detailed study.

In your opinion where does the bi-metal version of Badge 5 fit in? This is the large OF badge, or as I refer to it - 'the oblong lion' - but with the head in w/m.
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Thank you Mark.
The badge you describe is an Officer's badge, I believe all privately made by the Regiment, they are found on sliders and loops, the AY OCA members remember the Officers wearing them, what the date time line is I'm not sure.
I have seen a solid chin one, and a WW2 large of pattern, who knows.
This badge has also been worn as an NCO's arm Badge, as per attached photo, they wore all sorts as arm badges I have been informed, the lugged Du Morgi, The PRI badge, and as can be seen, the Officers pattern.
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Old 26-07-22, 08:39 PM
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An Officer’s Bronze cap badge Griffin resting on a Torse, is this a period piece? or made up? (I do hope not!), any timeframe for this would be appreciated.

Also a Chromed or Nickel coated badge, (Walking Out badge?) is what I think it is but as Chris open to your thoughts on it, you can see the Brass coming through the coating!
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Old 26-07-22, 08:44 PM
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Default Officer’s I.Y. Bronze badge & Chromed I.Y.

An Officer’s Bronze cap badge Griffin resting on a Torse, is this a period piece? or made up? (I do hope not!), any timeframe for this would be appreciated.

A Brass/Gilt I.Y. Similar to the following plated badge, as comparison.

Also a Chromed or Nickel coated badge, (Walking Out badge?) is what I think it is but as Chris open to your thoughts on it, you can see the Brass coming through the coating!
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Badge(s) nine
The anodised aluminium badge, one of these was sealed on the 30th of April 1965, I believe it's badge A, the J R Gaunt example, as it's similar to the sealed small of badge.
Interesting the Firmin badge has copied the WW2 large of badge, perhaps it was them who made the that original badge to make up for the short fall in 1939? My example has certainly spent a while in the gold anodised!
S&W and the Dowler does look like the lion has sat on a thorn, or had a scare.
Also another Gaunt, different die.

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C,Dowler
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E, Gaunt different die

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Dont think ive seen a Dowler version before. Personally,id doubt the Gaunt Bham was the original badge.
The Firmin and Smith & Wright marks usually percede the Gaunt Bham mark.
Im suprised there isnt a later marked badge than the ones youve listed.
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Old 27-07-22, 08:54 PM
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Does anybody know if the ACF units that wore the Ayrshire badge continued to do so after the adults began to wear the QOY badge ?
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Old 28-07-22, 07:26 AM
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Thank you Mike for your contribution to the thread.
Sorry for my late reply.
Much appreciated regarding the Firmin and Smith & Wright marks,I'll put them preceding the Gaunt when I eventually mount them.
I haven't seen any other makers mark for the AY anodised, I'd love to know if there are any more.
An interesting question regarding the cadets, I didn't know there were AY badged cadets? I will put your question to my AY OCA contacts.
Many thanks again
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Old 28-07-22, 03:26 PM
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The reason i ask is that there doesnt seem to be any more modern markers marks. Which meant either the badge wasnt worn or the QM kept a very tight control on the badges and reissued them.
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