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Old 18-01-11, 05:39 PM
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Default Rising Sun again.

I have already post that badge found at rear of the ww1 british front, it may have been throw in a rubbish then found many years after in a field. Old plated is still visible on the badge after a long stay in the earth. It seems to be a brooch and not a collar...
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Old 18-01-11, 06:10 PM
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hi vincient,

i agree with you the badge looks like a broach from the back.perhaps someone had one made to send home but lost it when in action.

cant say for sure but i thought all riseing sun badges were either slidered for cap or had lugs for collars.perhaps a more expert member could answer that

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Old 18-01-11, 07:56 PM
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Thanks. Agree with you.
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Old 19-01-11, 10:43 AM
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In my opinion this appears to be a cast collar for the purpose of a sweetheart brooch.
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Old 21-01-11, 08:12 PM
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It can be right too...but it seems to be rather thick to be a sweetheart. Plated both sides. Sometimes collars are broken and then repaired but probably not the case here, I do not see much things on back...
Needs probably to be cleaned by me (not too rough !) Still have pieces of earth on badge
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Old 03-02-11, 07:33 AM
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G'day Vincent

Im not going to be much help on this one, cast rising sun badges are not common, l have had a look in Jeff Cossum's book on rising suns, he shows one very rough cast hat badge and one collar badge, however there is a lot less detail in the rays of the sun and the crown is not void in the collar badge.

Collar badge sized badges with pins were usually worn by female members, usually nurses, l have a couple of silver nurses badges but they are very good quality badges and not cast.

I suggest that you send a pm to slick_mick and ask him to look at your post and ask him to comment as he is the expert on things Aussie.

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Old 03-02-11, 07:49 AM
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Actually Phil, Rising Suns aren't my forte!

I don't collect them myself.

I'm pretty sure that most of the ones I have seen though have been stamped.

Why would a super common badge (I guess over 300,000 would have been made for WW1) be cast? Possibly as a sweetheart badge? That would be my guess.

Again, I'm just speculating here as it's not my interest or area of expertise.

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Old 08-02-11, 01:32 AM
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Hi Mick

Sorry l thought that you might know the answer to this one, not to worry.

I have a cast rising sun also which l cant put my hands on at the moment. As you know almost anything goes, may be it was made up in the desert to replace lost badges, who knows but Cossum does show one.

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Old 08-02-11, 06:36 AM
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Hi all
Why can’t this be a die struck flat backed badge. Are you sure its cast? Bit grubby to see from the pic but there were several manufacturers particularly in the UK that made flat backed collar badges (never seen a flat back hat badge)
There is a thought that these badges were cap badges? Who knows?
I don’t know why it’s a pin back fitting but it could have been a sweethearts. Once again die struck flat backed.
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Old 08-02-11, 08:31 PM
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Hi to all. Closer view, may be helpful...
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Interesting thread, in as much as I have four badges in my repaired/to repair box...............

Top left is a cap badge, no sign of a slider but the remains of lugs, I have therefore re-lugged it, bronze washed it and it has bids on ebay.

Top right is a collar badge finished today but not yet listed.

Bottom left is a brooched collar ? the oddity is the fact that the brooch pin ( which is damaged ), is silvered on, where as the retaining hook was soft soldered in place.

Lastly, bottom right is another cap badge with old signs of a slider, with two badges being originally bronze effect, the brooched collar a natural finish and the slidered cap badge appears to have been a gilt finish, so many variations, any thoughts ????

My apologies for the poor photo's, hastily taken with electric lights and flash on...

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