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WW1 South Staffordshire?
I am just learning about British badges and I have a question about this one. I received it yesterday (with 6 others) and I like it for an original. However the slider has a terrific bend in the middle... although the slider seems hard to bend. Bent sliders are one sign of a restrike... yes? Any comments would be appreciated... thanks.
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The bent slider is not a sign of a restrike. More likely it was bent to fit lower down on the brim of a cap. I have seen several badges like that or with clipped sliders. A bendable slider may be the sign of a modern badge where the brass has not hardened with age but this is a very poor test. Often some makers simply had thinner sliders so I do not use this test.
Your badge looks fine to me. Alan Last edited by Alan O; 15-02-08 at 04:47 PM. |
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here is mine 100% genuine ww1
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Named sliders
When i got my first badges back in the 1950's I don't think any had names on the sliders, but now there are lots with names. Woodward and Lambourne are two WWI makers who did put names on. Lambourne sliders I know are being put on restrikes and when I can put pics up I will show the difference.
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Just to add a point on bent sliders.
This was often done (usually an inward bend in the middle) to create a 'friction area' ,making for a more secure & stable 'locking-in' of the badge when in place on the cap. During WW2 small brass clip/plates were often used also. These are found in a few varieties & are quite nice additions to a badge collection. Cheers ! Steve |
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like that i think...
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Indeed, that's the item mentioned (1 type anyway), Frenchy !
Cheers ! Steve Last edited by dragonz18; 16-02-08 at 07:00 AM. |
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I agree with Alan that this seems to be a general badge. I think Keith was referring to a company called Bent and Parker. I had thought, however, that their stamps were usually styled B&P !?
BTW Admin wat happened to the 'photoes of makers stamps - I can't find it (or the bibliography) The little clips were introduced in March 1940 (ACI 262/1940) to keep slidered badges straight on a FSC. Yes Jeanpit's one appears to be the most common, I have one of those too. BUT I'd like to collect the other varieties if anyone has any spare !!!! Julian |
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Another good reason to be suspicious. That batch I mentioned on the 8th Leeds thread had all sorts and as I wrote there the Tipfaft one was different from a know genuine stamp. I'm certain these were attempts to 'genuinize' a badge getting away from the normal Gaunt & Firmin marks by using other known companies and getting it wrong.
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Too early in the morning - I had meant "genuine"
Keith, if you mean someone is stamping dubious (or wrong) names on REAL badges, then it's a bit worrying, is'nt it ?! Apart from the confusion of whether a badge is genuine or not, it b*****s up any chance of researching who made what ! Julian |
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