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Old 23-11-15, 06:57 AM
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Hi all. I have no experience of ANZAC badges but I recently got this badge attached to a British slouch hat (posted in a separate thread). I am wondering if the badge is OK or not. In hand, for me at least, it "feels right" but I am basing this on what little I know about British badges and I know these are a minefield. Sorry about the low resolution pics, but is all the forum uploader would let me do.

Any comments would be welcome.

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Old 23-11-15, 07:07 AM
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Looks fine and quite valuable, they can fetch £100.

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Old 23-11-15, 07:53 AM
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Seriously? Didnt realise they were so valuable. I have been after a WW1 ANZAC badge but had never seriously looked into it, so i'm quite happy to have got one in this unexpected way. Cheers.
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Looks fine and quite valuable, they can fetch £100.

Andy
Hi Andy,
You will see from my numbers of posts that I am also new to badges so please excuse my lack of knowledge. What makes this badge worth £100 when others of a similar design are only a few £ís?
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Old 23-11-15, 08:37 AM
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This is a British made Rising Sun badge.

As to why its worth so much, I suspect its because Tiptaft didn't make many of them.

I personally don't think its worth anywhere near that myself (I certainly wouldn't pay that much) as I don't consider it to be anything too special.

Lots of Rising Sun badges were made during WW1.

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Old 23-11-15, 09:32 AM
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The quality of these tiptaft badges is normally far better than others and some with tiptaft also on the badge itself, they may have been a private purchase item as you don't see many, I paid £15 for a double mm one 20 years ago and was the only one that I'd seen when you could pick up others for £2-3 and another single slider marked about 2 years ago the same amount.

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Old 23-11-15, 09:38 AM
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hi spitace
as already mentioned its a english made rising sun. its interesting to see the mark on the slider as they also come with the markings on the back of the badge solely and both markings on the slider and back of badge.
prices have dropped dramatically for these badges. as andy said they used to bring up to £100 but these days its more like half that.
either way its a nice example so well done on your find
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Old 23-11-15, 10:50 AM
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Thanks for the comments guys. I am very happy to add this to my collection as I only paid £20 for the hat that this was attached to. Pricewise, having looked on Ebay (not always the most reliable I know), the average price appears to be around £50. I guess this is irrelevant though as it will be staying in the collection
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Old 23-11-15, 04:41 PM
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hi spitace
as already mentioned its a english made rising sun. its interesting to see the mark on the slider as they also come with the markings on the back of the badge solely and both markings on the slider and back of badge.
prices have dropped dramatically for these badges. as andy said they used to bring up to £100 but these days its more like half that.
either way its a nice example so well done on your find
bc
Hi Spitace, here's the badge Badgecollector mentioned for reference with both markings.

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Old 23-11-15, 08:10 PM
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Thanks for that Simon. It is interesting to see different examples. During the bit of digging I did online about these badges, there seems to be some people of the opinion that badges that are only marked on the slider are duds. Am I right in thinking that this school of thought is based on a myth?
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Old 23-11-15, 08:56 PM
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I think those with that opinion are the likely "duds"!

Whilst there are fakes which are marked with dubious makers marks, they are often pretty easily distinguishable from the real deal!

The makers mark section here on the Forum is a good guide!

Andy

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Old 23-11-15, 09:29 PM
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I think those with that opinion are the likely "duds"!

Whilst there are fakes which are marked with dubious makers marks, they often pretty easily distinguishable from the real deal!

The makers mark section here on the Forum is a good guide!

Andy
andy is 100% correct. couldn't have said it any better
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Old 24-11-15, 10:39 AM
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G'day Spitace

That is a nice example of a Tiptaft Rising Sun. Not wanting to be pedantic, however, it is not an ANZAC badge, it was only worn by the Australians, the Kiwis had a different badge and wore a hat like an old Boy Scout lemon squeeser.

If you go back on the thread there are several other posts dealing with Tiptaft Rising Suns. Personnaly I dont like the badge as the suns rays all have little dags on them and dags should only be found on the back end of sheep !

lf you look at other Riising Suns the suns rays have smooth edges and thats the way I like them and by the way I have half a shoe box of Rising Suns.

The Tiptaft badges should have the stamp on the slider in 2 lines in very small letters, like yours and also on the back of the badge on the flat bit between the suns rays and the top of the crown. The word Tiptaft should be to the left of the slider as you look at it and Birmingham on the right of the slider, the lettering is raised on the back of the badge and is part of the die when the badge is struck, it is not stamped in later like the lettering on the slider. Have a look at the back of Simon / Longshanks badge in his post above you can see the lettering on the back of the badge.

I hope that this helps and dont be affraid to ask for more help, its out there just for the asking.

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Old 24-11-15, 11:59 AM
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G'day Spitace

That is a nice example of a Tiptaft Rising Sun. Not wanting to be pedantic, however, it is not an ANZAC badge, it was only worn by the Australians, the Kiwis had a different badge and wore a hat like an old Boy Scout lemon squeeser.

If you go back on the thread there are several other posts dealing with Tiptaft Rising Suns. Personnaly I dont like the badge as the suns rays all have little dags on them and dags should only be found on the back end of sheep !

lf you look at other Riising Suns the suns rays have smooth edges and thats the way I like them and by the way I have half a shoe box of Rising Suns.

The Tiptaft badges should have the stamp on the slider in 2 lines in very small letters, like yours and also on the back of the badge on the flat bit between the suns rays and the top of the crown. The word Tiptaft should be to the left of the slider as you look at it and Birmingham on the right of the slider, the lettering is raised on the back of the badge and is part of the die when the badge is struck, it is not stamped in later like the lettering on the slider. Have a look at the back of Simon / Longshanks badge in his post above you can see the lettering on the back of the badge.

I hope that this helps and dont be affraid to ask for more help, its out there just for the asking.

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Cheers for that detailed rundown of the badges Lancer. Don't worry about being pedantic, I should have been more accurate.
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Old 24-11-15, 08:06 PM
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The Tiptaft as shown in Cossum's The Rising Sun Badge.
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