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Old 14-07-19, 11:13 AM
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Default Sherwood Forester's Officer's Badge (or Sgts, or OR's Private Purchase)?

Can a Sherwood Foresters enthusiast tell me please - is this badge an officer's one or would it be a variation worn by sergeants or a private purchase item perhaps for an OR's Coloured Field Service Cap?
It is generally of OR's quality and shows no traces of gilding or silver plate however it's central design is voided with a blue enameled backing plate as per an officer's badge.
The bottom scroll is affixed by pins rather than brazing, the lugs are short copper "D" loops.

Suggestions as to exactly what this badge is and period within the King's Crown "Nott's & Derby" scroll usage it would've been worn welcome.

Is it just a cheap metals version of the officer's badge?
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Old 14-07-19, 01:38 PM
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Very well polished officers badge.
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Old 14-07-19, 03:07 PM
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Thanks for that.
I'm happy whichever it is, but I was confused by the badge's "Other Ranks quality" particularly as it doesn't appear to have been gilding or plated (no traces anywhere on the badge) and has short lugs.

That's another one solved.......
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Old 14-07-19, 04:42 PM
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I very much doubt if it is an officers badge, you would expect it to be both better made and finished rather differently if it were, still a most pleasing thing though.


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Can a Sherwood Foresters enthusiast tell me please - is this badge an officer's one or would it be a variation worn by sergeants or a private purchase item perhaps for an OR's Coloured Field Service Cap?
It is generally of OR's quality and shows no traces of gilding or silver plate however it's central design is voided with a blue enameled backing plate as per an officer's badge.
The bottom scroll is affixed by pins rather than brazing, the lugs are short copper "D" loops.

Suggestions as to exactly what this badge is and period within the King's Crown "Nott's & Derby" scroll usage it would've been worn welcome.

Is it just a cheap metals version of the officer's badge?
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Old 14-07-19, 05:00 PM
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Ah - was another one solved.......
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Old 14-07-19, 08:15 PM
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Hi

I think ive seen that before on here theres an album of
Badges made by Something Mint as replicas ?

If I've got it wrong I apologise in advance

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Old 14-07-19, 08:23 PM
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You may be thinking of the Birmingham Mint series?
As I recall their version of the badge is "chunkier" and fitted with a slider.
The Danbury Mint series I believe are all anodised aluminium badges.
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Old 14-07-19, 08:30 PM
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Birmingham Mint version is QC with a slider.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...hp?albumid=767

Danbury Mint are mostly anodised with two blades.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=1177

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My own opinion is that it is an officer's badge. Those lugs are usually indicative of some age as well. Not all officer badges were of the highest standard.

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The Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire) Regiment Officers badge (K&K 662) were silver, gilt and enamel and usually with blades but have seen with lugs and were worn 1903-1953. Yours is well polished Leigh, cheers Dean
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Old 15-07-19, 04:57 AM
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Thank you.
Another possibility I considered was that the badge may have been an adaptation of a Volunteer units W/M and enamel badge, the G/M scroll being pinned on and the badge worn after 1908, but I have nothing to support that theory.
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