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NZ Artillery Badge "QUO FAS ET GLORIA DUCUNT"
Hi Team
I'm looking to ID the era this NZ Artilley Cap badge was used. Its a broach back so would this have been used pre lug issued? Also what years were the motto "QUO FAS ET GLORIA DUCUNT" used. cheers Phill |
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Found this:
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Base / Scroll to right (rear) you can clearly see remains of the fixing “Blade” not so clear to the left, and possibly one just under the Crown on top scroll, so presumably an Officer’s badge? does the badge show an Officer’s quality, looks to be O/R,s.
All the best Billy |
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I came across another site that had this badge as pre 1911 and thinking this style with the broach back was from that era. cheers Phill |
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hi Phil
the brooch back isnt military and has been added at a later date. as Billy mentioned, it does appear that it may have originally had blade fixings and given the position of the remnants of one, may suggest 3 blades. i think as Mike mentioned this post 1911 cheers BC |
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Thanks BC for clarifying
Metal badges are not my area and going back over what billy mentioned and regarding the back and Mike's post , this makes sense to be post 1911/ WWI era but with a later added civilian broach pin. What would the reasons be for adding a broach pin? For reuse or sweat heart momento? cheers for all the input , always learning. Phill |
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Mike, If the order to place N.Z on the upper scroll came in 1911, what was worn before? You’ll see in my New Zealand album, I have an OR’s helmet plate with UBIQUE on the scroll. (Did somebody get s**t for that?). I also have a cap badge placed before the N.Z badges. Guess I’ll have to re-title that one. Cheers D.J.
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All I got at this time.
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I am still looking for British Army cloth Formation, Regimental, Battalion, Company and other Unit sleeve badges, from 1980 onwards. |
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Here are a few of the NZ top scroll types of mine like the one in the opening post.
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Info on a lot of NZ Artillery badges on this page : https://www.jsmilitaria.com/nz-vol-badges.html As for the cap badge , a 'lot' of NZ badges (including Artillery) shows cap badges with UBIQUE top scroll and ROYAL N.Z. ARTILLERY bottom scroll (see photo) with a date of 15/10/1902 but most sites date this badge to 1947 ? https://www.olympiaauctions.com/sale...18/view-lot/6/ From I.W.M : Quote:
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Double post
Last edited by atillathenunns; 11-04-23 at 08:11 AM. |
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From 1902 to 1911, the NZ Field artillery generic gun badge or individual unit gun badges such as "A", "B", "E" Battery, No.1 Coy and others were worn. Adding a broach pin was often done post war or service, for wear on civilian dress. 680817129.jpg |
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Thanks for the update and clarification ATH
Metal insignia I struggle with so really appreciate the replies. cheers Phill |
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The original 1911 badge design submitted by the officer commanding "G" Battery (Hamilton). The notations/ammendments are initialled "AG" (Alexander Godley)
I also have copies of the other district artillery badge designs. 1911 Gun badge.jpg |
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