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Hi Alan
During my research into the mention in despatches award and using the website of Mr Peter Ghiringhelli B.A.(Hons), M.A. at http://www.petergh.f2s.com/medals.htm I came to the conclusion that the award may have been made during ww1 in either a civilian role or as a p.o.w based on the following ''WW1 Mention in Despatches In January 1920, Army Order 3, authorised the issuing of an emblem of multiple oak leaves in bronze to be issued to those who had been Mentioned in Despatches between August 4, 1914 and August 10, 1920. This could be for gallantry in action or for a wide range of services on and off the battlefield. The emblem was to be worn on the ribbon of the Victory Medal or on the ribbon of the War Medal if no Victory Medal had been issued. Only one emblem could be worn no matter how often the recipient had been mentioned in despatches; if no medals had been issued, as in the case of civilians, then it was worn directly on the lapel of the jacket. '' Followed by '' Mention in Despatches WW2 In 1920, the emblem was changed from a branch of oak leaves (WW1 - see above) to a single oak leaf and this was used in WW2 for all arms including the Merchant Navy, for a Mention in Despatches, a King's Commendation for brave conduct, or a King's Commendation for service in the air. The WW2 single oak leaf emblem is worn on the War Medal 1939-1945 ribbon. In the absence of the War Medal, it is worn directly on the coat to the right of any other ribbons. '' (source Mr Ghirinighelli's webpage) The mystery continues but its also been a valuable and enjoyable education along the way...once again thank you for the input folks |
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I would agree that a Trade badge is a strong possibility. However not a letter in wreath type for a Sergeant but possibly the hammer and pincers for a unit fitter or armourer?
Whatever the badge we should not be over concerned about the positioning which might not be in compliance with regulations! Tim
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I'd say metal crown, for rank of Sgt of Horse... or (Sgt in other regiments).
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But not above the chevrons on the right arm? Where there is the RTR tank.
Tim
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This was my thinking, it was perhaps a nod to tradition if it was not something officially carried on? only thing that makes sense for the shape.... the fitters device is surely too big I'd have thought..... seeing how carefully the other badge patch is shaped....
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Hi again folks
Came across the attached picture and finding the ''Types of Drivers badges'' thread and the excellent picture of various drivers badges posted by grey_green_acorn could the ''missing badge'' be something as overlooked as a 5 pointed star ? |
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In looking through a number of photos from the 1945/46 time frame showing uniforms with ribbons visible I've found a few where (some?) campaign star ribbons are there but the War Medal is not. Unfortunately none of those photos involve individuals who were MID during that war. While the following was Canadian Army direction in August 1946, regulations and availability of medals/ribbons in the British Army would likely have been similar. http://regimentalrogue.com/misc/wwii_medals_6719.html Quote:
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Thank you for the wonderful comprehensive answer Blackadder ,my education continues and as if by magic....
MENTIONED IN DESPATCHES Major • B. A. Wallace Major H. P. Stanyon Lt B. H. Pear Lt D. C. Potter Lt D. C. Bright Sjt D. Poole Sjt C. R. Carter Sjt T.W . McMahon Sjt C.E.J . Whybrow Sjt R. Byrne Sjt J. Wilson Sjt M.W.J . Fowler Cpl A. R. N. Adcock Cpl A.T . McCall Cpl J. E. Thompson (REME) L/Cpl A.W . Milburn Excuse the formatting,the above was cut and pasted from The WESTMINSTER DRAGOONS in North West Europe, June 1944 - May 1945" available from the library section of the WD's website http://www.westminsterdragoons.co.uk/ |
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Hello folks
Sorry to be a necromancer however i have been doing some further research and apart from getting very bogged down with information i still haven't found out what the missing badge is . Whilst ruminating recently and looking at the outline in the felt i had an idea of the wheatsheaf of the Lothians and Border yeomanry and upon further research a whole host of information became available regarding secondments to other regiments etc Could it have been posssible that the original owner was perhaps L & BY but seconded to W/D or perhaps vice versa ? I have come across a picture of L& BY and there is a picture of a Sergeant wearing what appears to be a badge above his chevrons on the left arm unfortunately the resolution isnt good enough to identify Also it appears as if their has been collar badges affixed in the past (i never thought to look closely before) 2 holes, east west orientation Would anyone have any further info TIA |
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Most interesting thread.
P.B.
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Its certainly been an education ...since finding the blouse i have amassed quite a collection of books on all things armoured,made a visit to Bovington tank museum,unfortunately had no time for research as it was a day out for two relatives of mine,however, i did get to see a flail tank up close and also got quite a suprise to see photographs of the very first ideas of the tank being tested in my home town of which i was completely unaware, been in touch with an old teacher of mine i havent spoken to for nearly 40 years who has contacts within the Westminster dragoons ,amassed several more books on badges ,accoutrements,shoulder titles etc and still my quest continues...i dont actually mind if i never find out...the education along the way has been fantastic !
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