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Old 22-02-21, 08:18 PM
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Irish Guards pagri, I reckon it may be a Calvary badge ? Hopefully Sean might cast his eye over these.
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Old 22-02-21, 10:42 PM
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The IG "pagri" badge is bad in my opinion, replete with footed lugs. Most everything else looks good to me with the exception of those already mentioned by Andy.

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Old 23-02-21, 06:22 AM
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The IG Pagri is an example of the undress sabtetache badge worn by the 4 RIDG and used by the IG for the same purpose 1900-1902. I believe yours is a modern reproduction.

The 1935 Pagri stars are shown below with other stars for a size comparison, the officer' version is pierced (c) the other ranks version is not (d). Prior to 1935 the forage cap star was the approved star for the pagri but was not worn by the regiment as being too small.

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Old 23-02-21, 06:26 AM
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IG - not collar badges, these are part of the shoulder title. The other ranks collar badge of the Irish Guards is a shamrock and you will typically only see it on full dress and mess dress.

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Old 23-02-21, 06:35 AM
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I am not at all sure about this star, it looks quite poor quality. The star may be cut asymmetrically. From what I can see this looks like a star that International Militaria in NJ were selling openly as a reproduction several years ago but that appears regularly now on e-bay

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eBay item number:332913516827 (more than 10 available and 19 sold!)

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Old 23-02-21, 08:49 AM
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From the photographs I would think the first example is okay, although sadly it has been broached.



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Don't like any off the badges the officers not sure there should be one this is not good quality
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Old 23-02-21, 08:56 AM
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Original examples of both the Foreign Service Helmet badges and the regiments Valise badges are rather different in terms of manufacture and materials used.


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Old 23-02-21, 09:26 AM
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As a badge, I quite like it, but, there appears absolutely no age to it, whatsoever and a lack of quality when compared with vintage examples.
If members of the regiment actually wore these, then I would have to regard them as original, but, have they been so worn?


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I am not at all sure about this star, it looks quite poor quality. The star may be cut asymmetrically. From what I can see this looks like a star that International Militaria in NJ were selling openly as a reproduction several years ago but that appears regularly now on e-bay

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eBay item number:332913516827 (more than 10 available and 19 sold!)

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Old 23-02-21, 07:58 PM
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Thank you all for your comments nothing to surprising
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https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...4&d=1614023076

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...5&d=1614023096

Hello Neil.
This is a WW1 Bronze two piece Officers Service Dress Cap Star. I've only seen two and I own one. They are very rare. This was verified by Irish Guards RHQ and the Guards Museum.

Here is my one - from my album.

Save for the voided Gaunt Officers Pagri star - its the only Irish Guards officers cap star that is not silver and enameled.
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Hi Sean being a bit thick but I think you are saying the badge I listed as a collar is OSD cap
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Old 17-03-21, 03:52 PM
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Hello Neil,
Yes - exactly.
If its of two-piece construction and bronze then it is an Officers Service Dress Cap star.
The image i have posted is of my one or comparison.
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Thanks Sean and did have a look at your album very useful just used to OSD's having Blades
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I should of said Battalion Staff.
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