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Hello Toby,
Thanks a lot for your time and of course, info, it's appreciated. Dave. Last edited by davec2; 05-09-08 at 09:55 AM. |
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Hi Dave
Toby is correct the reason for the backing could have been if he was on detachment to another regiment or just as Toby says a decoration by a previous owner but officially the answer is no backing Regards Clive PS The only one that I have with a red backing is a badges of the Worcester Royal Gammer School OTC and they did wear a backing so it is possible one of the officers of this unit was a officer from the regiment at sometime |
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Another topic I can really get into. Will get some pics taken and post.
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As stated in this thread, would it be possible to have a forum or thead dedicated to cap badge backings? Cheers, Paul. |
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On the GS (Khaki) Beret the North Staffords wore a black patch behind the badge (transferred to a collar badge backing when blue berets were introduced) to represent the old Black facing colour. The South Staffords wore a "Holland patch" backing to commemorate long service in the West Indies when due to lack of proper material they used Holland Cloth to repair uniforms and make waistcoats. The Holland was worn by the Staffords and I suspect is now worn by 3 Mercian (Staffords)
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No pictures readily to hand but three backings from personal experience/knowledge:
1. The scarlet rectangle behind the King's Regiment badge in an earlier post; also worn in the early 1980s (at least) by Manchester & Salford University OTC with their upright prancing lion badge 2. B (Staffordshire Yeomanry) Squadron, Queen's Own Mercian Yeomanry wore a red backing behind the centre of their squadron collar dogs in the late 1970s 3. Post-war in battledress on the beret, officers of the Royal Warwickshire Regiment wore their cap badge on a blue rectangle. |
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The Mercian capbadge has a Lincoln green backing patch on the beret,from the Worcester and Sherwood Foresters. |
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Just found this
Regimental dress distinctions
The regiment's cap badge is a double headed Mercian Eagle with Saxon crown. This has been chosen because it forms a link to the regiment's recruiting area, which encompass a number of divergent counties that do not have traditional links, except under the ancient Kingdom of Mercia (unlike the other new regiments from Scotland, Wales and Yorkshire). It was originally intended to use the old Mercian Brigade badge worn by the Cheshire Regiment, Staffordshire Regiment, Worcestershire Regiment and Sherwood Foresters from 1958 to 1968, rather than create an amalgamated badge that would require elements from all of the antecedents. In 2005 this badge was rejected by the Army Dress Committee on the grounds that it had been the badge of a territorial unit, The Mercian Volunteers, junior to the amalgamating regiments. Accordingly a slightly modified design was adopted. Various "Golden Threads", representing the traditions of predecessor units, are incorporated in the Mercian Regiment's uniform: Arm badge: a gold wire Stafford knot and glider badge with a backing of "Brown Holland" material on a black felt patch from the Staffordshire Regiment Collar badge: Oak leaves and acorn from the Cheshire Regiment combined with the motto Firm from the Worcestershire Regiment Facing colour: buff, from the Cheshire Regiment. To be worn on full dress uniform, mess dress and as piping on No.1 dress shoulder straps. Sword frog on the Sam Browne Belt comes from the Worcestershire Regiment Officer's rank badges will be coloured bronze /gun metal, from the North Staffordshire Regiment Warrant officers' and NCO's rank badges: Black backing from Staffordshire Regiment.. Cap badge backing: A square Lincoln green cloth backing worn behind the cap badge on the beret, from the Sherwood Foresters Lanyards: Each battalion is to retain a distinctively coloured lanyard on No.2 dress: red cerise for the 1st battalion, Lincoln green for the 2nd, black for the 3rd and Mercian blue for the 4th. A regimental pattern with twists of cerise, buff and green also exists. Tactical Recognition Flashes: The Regiment's TRF is a 3 vertical striped diamond with Cerise on the left, Buff in the middle and Lincoln Green on the right. Each Battalion also has their own, the 1st and 2nd Battalions use their anticendant Regiments flashes, Buff and Cerise for the 1st and Cerise and Lincoln Green for the 2nd. The 3rd battalion has a black diamond with the Staffordshire knot and the 4th Battalion has a blue diamond with the Mercian Eagle on it. Regimental Side Hat: black with buff inner crease and green piping and peak. The cap badge is in silver and gold wire embroidery. Pullover: Buff, worn by officers and WOs, from the Cheshire Regiment. Stable Belt: Buff, from the Cheshire Regiment, with a bronze locket bearing the cap badge in brass. |
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Badge Backings
There is a book on this subject but I can't for the life of me remember its title, but I seem to remember the proceeds went to a charity for service personnel injured in N Ireland. Barry Morris of Morris Militaria had a copy. Cheers Sean.
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Badge Backings and Special Embellishments of the British Army
ISBN 0 9514342 0 9 C E Audax |
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Badge Backings
Full marks that man, don't forget all the northern regiments that Kipling and Kean and others, perhaps couldn't research due to geography, yet alone the officer's badges compared to other ranks. Cheers Sean.
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Lancastrian Brigade
Hello all,
Picked this up today A/A Lancastrian Brigade cap badge. Marked J.R.Gaunt B'HAM it came complete with a red felt backing. I already have this badge but with out the backing, is the red felt particular to a specific regiment of the brigade or is it just missing from my first badge? Regards Tony |
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Tony,
In the book"Badge Backings and Special Embelishments" which has been mentioned in this thread earlier,on page 90 it says The Kings Regiment continued to wear their red badge backing behind the Brigade badge. This would have been the red 1 7/8" square ( mentioned by Staffsyeoman previously ) and not the outline backing on the badge you have just acquired. P.B.
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P.B thanks for information,I recall red patch you mention being worn by The Kings regiment and it can now be seen backing the new Duke of Lancasters badge.
Regards Tony. |
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