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Anodised cap badges seeded/non-seeded
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your assistance required for a short project of mine to identify those anodised badges (of the same die design) that are found both with and without seeding on scrolls and straps etc. So far from my own collection I have identified the following:- RHA - silver pattern with lugs HAC - large version. Irish Guards Coldstream Guards Scots Guards RAC RAVC Royal Anglian Regt The Black Watch Royal Scots KOSB Cheshire Regiment south Staffordshire Regt (unmarked slider version is seeded) Kings Liverpool Regt Royal Regiment of Wales Kings Regt And yes this phenomenon does also appear on anodised collars (check out background of the tablet bearing the '105' on the Royal Dragoons collars - some seeded and some not). If anyone can add to my list, for interests sake - and to identify gaps in my/our collective knowledge, I'd be grateful. Many thanks all Bess Last edited by bess55; 03-06-16 at 12:30 PM. Reason: redaction |
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Both RA cap and beret guns lost their seeding when they were simplified and got the applied wheel.
RADC two piece seeded and one piece unseeded. Rgds, Thomas. |
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Thanks Thomas
I hadn't added the RA as they were differing dies. RADC added to my list, many thanks mate - I'll re check my RADC set! |
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Ok, I checked my 'Dentists' and most are 2 piece badges and clearly seeded on the scroll. Gaunt however made an all on piece version (marked both Birmingham and London). The scrolls do initially look clear of seeding , however a closer examination of my examples reveals a very light seeding. What does not help here I would suspect is that some seeding presents more robust than others. Thanks again Thomas. |
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Rgds, Thomas. |
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Seeding
Seeding is the background stippling effect, frequently on otherwise plain areas of a badge, such as the background to title scrolls.
I've used an anodised and bi-metal example as the photos were to hand. Stephen. |
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With regards to the Royal Anglian Regt, the vast majority I have display no seeding to the scroll, however those with sliders marked FIRMIN LONDON and MARPLES & BEASLEY have seeding on the 'Royal Anglian' scroll. Additionally a Firmin & Sons PLC issue clear plastic bag (dated 01/07/05) marked for and containing a Royal Anglian badge also displays seeding on its scroll. The badge slider is marked with the later 'fatter' FIRMIN' mark. Norfolk man - Hope this helps. Regards all Bess |
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That'll be more on your wants list them ! 😄
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Re the R. Anglian Regt - to be fair, I hadn't either and only discovered it when I carried out a survey of my collection which prompted this short project.
In general I think badges found with and without seeding, tend to indicate that the seeded ones are the earlier example. I know there were issues with early anodised badges and seeding (in that it clearly did not transpose well from the earlier brass versions, some using the original die's) and the shiny appearance of the anodising made the lettering difficult to read clearly. However the seeding clearly lived on in many badges. |
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With regards to the Royal Anglian Regt, the vast majority I have display no seeding to the scroll, however those with sliders marked as listed below all have seeding.
FIRMIN LONDON FIRMIN FIRMIN (fatter firmin mark) MARPLES & BEASLEY Additionally Firmin & Sons PLC issue clear plastic bag (dated 01/07/05) marked for and containing a Royal Anglian badge also displays seeding on its scroll. The badge slider is marked with the later 'fatter' FIRMIN' mark. Firmin & Sons PLC issue clear plastic bag (dated 03/08/04)(another bag is dated 26/06/03) marked for and containing a Royal Anglian badge also displays seeding on its scroll.The badge has the smaller FIRMIN mark. This study was conducted using a collection of over 400 R.Anglian Anodized with slider cap badges. |
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