Royal Norfolk A/A Beret Badge

[Sawstonjohn]

I thought this might go for a good price but this suprised me!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Has anyone ever seen one before?

[Alan O]

I have one of my own but the trident top is missing. (still cost me £20 mind you)

Alan

[Paddy]

Sawstonjohn

I've attached pictures of the front and back of mine, slider crimp mark and maker's name stamp look identical. Think this one cost approx £30 a couple of years ago.

Paddy

Can anyone put a date on the issue of this badge, at all?

With thanks,

PJ

[Mike H]

Pre 1958 for sure.Dont know if anyone has a sealed pattern date for it though.

[Alan O]

I reckon its later than 1958 - could well be 1960s TA as most of the early Infantry regt badges were sealed in the mid 60s when the regular bns were wearing the bde badges. The RAnglian badge came into use in 1964 and I think that this was for the TA as well as the Regular bns.

[Mike H]

Originally Posted by Alan O

I reckon its later than 1958 - could well be 1960s TA as most of the early Infantry regt badges were sealed in the mid 60s when the regular bns were wearing the bde badges. The RAnglian badge came into use in 1964 and I think that this was for the TA as well as the Regular bns.

Is there a date in K&K or Taylor for it Alan ?

[grey_green_acorn]

I have one with an unmarked slider but otherwise looks identical to the SMITH & WRIGHT LTD version illustrated. I suspect that Royal Norfolk Beret badges might have been made for the Army Cadet Force long after the Regular Battalion went into the East Anglian Brigade etc.
Here are two more recent cloth ACF beret badges one embroidered on felt and another in gold thread embroidered or woven on silk:

Originally Posted by Alan O

...The RAnglian badge came into use in 1964....

I know for a fact that the 1st East Anglia was wearing its 'new' badge at least as early as the summer of 1959. Britannia was most definitely not in use for these regulars at that time.

East Anglia 5a.jpg

[Mike H]

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

I have one with an unmarked slider but otherwise looks identical to the SMITH & WRIGHT LTD version illustrated. I suspect that Royal Norfolk Beret badges might have been made for the Army Cadet Force long after the Regular Battalion went into the East Anglian Brigade etc.
Here are two more recent cloth ACF beret badges one embroidered on felt and another in gold thread embroidered or woven on silk:

Brilliant Alan,ive seen in a collection a pair of a/a collars

[Alan O]

K&K Vol 2 - GM beret version sealed 10 Jan 1950.
Anodised version is 21 Apr 1964.

The East Anglian Bde badge is 22 May 1958 and this was worn by the Regular Bns up to 1964. As the RANGLIAN badge was for TA and Regular Bns my betting is that the a/a Norfolks went to cadets and may have only have been worn by the TA for a very short period.

[badjez]

Ano badge sealed 21.04.64. for wear by 4 Bn (TA) and cadets only.

I have versions by Smith & Wright and Firmin.

Stephen.

Originally Posted by Alan O

The East Anglian Bde badge is 22 May 1958 and this was worn by the Regular Bns up to 1964.

Just as a point of interest (and a slight digression from the main issue being discussed) the Royal Norfolk Regiment 'offically' changed to the 1st East Anglia Regiment at midnight on the 29th August 1959. However, the new East Anglia badge had been 'unofficially' issued (roughly) a few weeks prior to this, and was being worn by regulars in advance of the official change-over date.

Alan:- may I ask if the date you cite here (22nd May 1958) is the date the pattern was sealed?

Peter.

[Alan O]

Yes it is according to K&K.

Thanks, Alan.

PJ