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Old 24-05-09, 02:05 PM
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Can anyone show me what badge would have been worn by an officer of the Indian Army Reserve of Officers in 1917/18.
I need one to accompany a medal. Any tips on where I might find one gratefully received
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No ideas anyone?

I've just found my copy of Cox's Military Badges of the British Empire and as far as I can see he makes no mention of the IARO. Would they have worn the GRI badges he shows as 2301, 2302 or 2303?

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Old 25-05-09, 04:28 PM
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I think you are probably correct.
However Dress Regs for India 1913 (para 236) states that offrs should provide themselves with uniform "of the pattern worn in the unit or department to which they are attached. The letters "I.A.R." will be worn below the badges of rank..." No doubt there was such a great influx of newly commissioned pers for the Great War that GRI, (much the same as the UK's General Service Corps), would presumably have been appropriate.
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Old 25-05-09, 05:45 PM
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My man served with the Iraq Labour Corps and the Kurdish Labour Corps and as far as I know they had no badges. So I am guessing the GRI one must be appropriate, but it would be nice to be sure?
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No ideas anyone?

I've just found my copy of Cox's Military Badges of the British Empire and as far as I can see he makes no mention of the IARO. Would they have worn the GRI badges he shows as 2301, 2302 or 2303?

Anybody?

Eddie
Just dug out my copy of Cox"s and found the same as you. Have to assume that the three you mention could be the ones worn. John
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Hi Guys,

would it me possible to post the badges you are talking about.
I only have Kiplings and Kings Vol 1 and 2; and can't seem to find anything related to these badges you are on about.

I would be interested in any such WW1 Officer Badges connected with the above that you could also reference or supply.

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I have some Cap badges that have come with the medal that I have in my family collection but really now very little about this subject....... Can anyone help!

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Indian Army Reserve officers (IARO) wore the Cypher of George V "GRI" with Tudor Crown above.
As regards badges to the Indian Labour Corps, ( there were several Labour companies with different designations, depending from which part of India they were recruited, there was also a Jail Labour Corps). I'm told all the Labour Corps raised during the Great War came under the Department of Labour , Government of India, on loan to the Amy. The badge seen is in bronze die struck, with a flat topped Kings crown ( peculiar to India) resting on a circlet, inscribed "Dept of Labour, Government of India", within the circlet some design could be a cypher. Worn one would think only by officers.
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I think you are probably correct.
However Dress Regs for India 1913 (para 236) states that offrs should provide themselves with uniform "of the pattern worn in the unit or department to which they are attached. The letters "I.A.R." will be worn below the badges of rank..." No doubt there was such a great influx of newly commissioned pers for the Great War that GRI, (much the same as the UK's General Service Corps), would presumably have been appropriate.
Saw this version, not known when worn.
http://www.qmsmilitaria.com/viewphot...h=55305&phqu=2
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Saw this version, not known when worn.
http://www.qmsmilitaria.com/viewphot...h=55305&phqu=2
I woukld be very interested to see an official reference to this badge. It looks bazaar made and, unless it is a post-Partition badge, very unlike the general run of IARO badges discusssed here and elsewhere.
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No ideas anyone?

I've just found my copy of Cox's Military Badges of the British Empire and as far as I can see he makes no mention of the IARO. Would they have worn the GRI badges he shows as 2301, 2302 or 2303?

Anybody?

Eddie
Does it help.....© IWM (HU 116544)
Lieutenant H V Shaw Page. Indian Army.
http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib...at=photographs
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Does it help.....© IWM (HU 116544)
Lieutenant H V Shaw Page. Indian Army.
http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib...at=photographs
Perfecto!! Thanks.
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Can anyone show me what badge would have been worn by an officer of the Indian Army Reserve of Officers in 1917/18.
I need one to accompany a medal. Any tips on where I might find one gratefully received
Thanks
Eddie

Hello,

I was doing a bit of research some twenty odd years ago at the Imperial War Museum on the forces involved in the East African campaigns of 1914-18, and came across a number of photographs that depicted European officers wearing the badge illustrated below. This was attached to a flash that was worn on the left-hand side of their Wolseley pattern helmets. I’ve always understood these letters to translate: Indian Army Reserve.

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I think you are probably correct.
However Dress Regs for India 1913 (para 236) states that offrs should provide themselves with uniform "of the pattern worn in the unit or department to which they are attached. The letters "I.A.R." will be worn below the badges of rank..." No doubt there was such a great influx of newly commissioned pers for the Great War that GRI, (much the same as the UK's General Service Corps), would presumably have been appropriate.
Thank you. Looking for photos of officers wearing a GRI or ERI and also IAR shoulder titles.
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