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23-03-20, 06:10 PM
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Interpreting reference numbers on trade patches
Can anyone shed light on the different sequences of reference numbers used on Royal Navy trade patches? I am assuming that there has been a standard list of reference numbers at any particular point in time, which has been updated periodically over the years.
I am attaching pictures of some trade patches, of the same trade designations, but showing different reference numbers for the same trade patch. I would interested to know if the lists of reference numbers can be found somewhere, as well as periods during which each list was valid? I assume that the 3 digits plus letter are the oldest, followed by 5 digits starting with '30' (in this case) and then '33', and finally the most recent being the longer reference starting with 'V086' or 'V087'. Last edited by DougSA; 23-03-20 at 06:16 PM. 
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23-03-20, 06:36 PM
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They are VOCAB numbers - unique stores references. Have a look here, there is I think a full list somewhere.
The other numbers are part NSNs - NATO stock numbers e.g. 139-9372 https://rmhistorical.com/royalnavy Tim
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23-03-20, 06:38 PM
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23-03-20, 06:56 PM
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This is a current list which shows some of the old VOCAB numbers and the NSNs.
https://rmhistorical.com/files/conte...20Jun%2016.pdf Tim
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24-03-20, 09:35 AM
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This is most helpful, especially for modern trade patches and older patches from c.1956. Any ideas where Vocab numbers for WW2 FAA patches might be found?
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24-03-20, 04:48 PM
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Some FAA badges described here from a 1956 order.
https://rmhistorical.com/files/conte...-1956%20RN.pdf Would they be as WW2? Tim
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24-03-20, 06:12 PM
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Page 11 shows some air ratings badges with ‘pattern nos’ in the 70 to 80 series which may be part VOCAB numbers
https://rmhistorical.com/files/conte...-1939%20RN.pdf Tim
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25-03-20, 06:09 PM
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WW2 numbers are in different format, i.e. 3 digits plus a letter. See the attached Meteorological Observer patches, the first of which I believe to date from the late 1940s (introduced in 1948) or early 1950s, and the second which I believe dates from the mid-1950s onwards. I have also attached a photo of an Air Mechanic Fitter (F) patch, which - according to the information I have - was only in use from 1948 to 1956; the Vocab number also being of the earlier format of 3 digits and a letter. Anyway, I will keep searching... Last edited by DougSA; 26-03-20 at 09:27 AM.
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