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Old 18-07-20, 03:42 PM
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Hi Gents,

Unusual item!

A silversmith in Totnes I visited recently, who understanding that I had served in the forces, showed me a presentation plate, 1 kg in weight that he is reluctant to consign to scrap as it would be of more value to a military collector.
I would welcome any information on the officer it was presented to as such a beautiful and historic item should not be turned into meaningless silver trinkets.

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Old 18-07-20, 04:26 PM
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Kevin,

I have Army Lists for every year but I cannot find any officer of any rank named E. CLARKE in the Royal Fusiliers at that time.

There are several officers named E. CLarke with and without further initials in the British Army at that time but none with a RF connection.

His connection with the Sergeants Mess may have been in another capacity or even as a member of the Royal Navy?

Its a puzzle.

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Old 18-07-20, 05:36 PM
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Simon,

Thanks for your very quick reply.

It sounds like a challenge to solve this mystery, sadly the siversmith called "Omar" was given this plate by a friend a while ago and could not give me any more info on it.
For a presentation of this quality to be given to a Lieutenant for years of service, and presented by the WO`s and Sgt`s mess, would suggest that he came from the ranks and certainly a WO1 or 2 with maybe a QM`s commission.
I am sure you have considered this and only suggest this for anyone else that may help to solve this mystery.

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Old 18-07-20, 07:14 PM
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Possibly this chap, though the salver is engraved to the 1st Bn.

First Name:
E
Surname:
Clarke
Nationality:
British
Information:
Quartermaster.
Rank:
Honorary Lieutenant
Service:
British Army
Regiment:
Royal Fusiliers (London Regiment)
Battalion:
3rd Battalion
Seniority Date:
11/10/1909

Army List 1909.

Edit: could be it was presented to one of the members of the 1st Bn's Sgts Mess upon his promotion and transfer to the 3rd Bn?

Unclear as to whether this entry related to 3rd Bn The Royal Fusiliers (City of London) or1st Bn The London Regiment.

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Leigh,

well done Leigh. I couldnt find him.

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Old 18-07-20, 07:33 PM
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There was an E Clarke who was in the 1st and the 7th Bns The Royal Fusiliers, a sergeant, later Lt and Captain QM but I think he was commissioned during WWI.
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Old 18-07-20, 07:45 PM
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Probably given to Ernest Clarke as a wedding present by the Sergeants of the battalion.

Marriages Dec 1909
CLARKE Ernest Toxteth Park 8b 364
CLARKE Ernest Mutford 4a 2421
CLARKE Ernest Hayfield 7b 1709
CLARKE Ernest Alfred Edmonton 3a 985
CLARKE Ernest Edward Thanet 2a 2096
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His Medal Index Card.
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Gents,

Thank you so much for the wealth of info you have provided, this will allow me to push the research a little further.

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