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Old 28-01-17, 08:23 PM
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Default Early upper lugs RA

Another one of the pick ups I made today, i think this type is early with two E-W upper lugs.
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Old 28-01-17, 09:04 PM
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Nice, introduced in 1902 and replaced by the long slidered version in 1903.

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Nice, introduced in 1902 and replaced by the long slidered version in 1903.

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Thomas,
Interested to see those dates quoted. I have never known of this on RA badges before.
Can you provide a reference please to confirm the information?

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Old 29-01-17, 12:06 AM
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Sorry, can´t supply you with references specific to the RA badge, other than general references referring to fittings for badges at the time. Introduced as: Pattern No. 9488; CB 0289 Royal Artillery: 5752/1902 : (to replace the grenade).

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Old 29-01-17, 07:35 AM
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Very nice Jerry, a good example and the Edwardian badges are certainly getting much harder to find these days.

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Old 29-01-17, 08:40 AM
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Very nice Jerry, a good example and the Edwardian badges are certainly getting much harder to find these days.
Thanks Frank. Not bad for 4 quid.
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Old 29-01-17, 08:47 AM
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Morning Jerry,
Very true, you can't expect to get much for £4 these days and certainly not a badge that is a hundred and ten years plus old.
It is worth looking at badges, even very common ones, I reckon that I would only ever see one in ten or so, that would be Edwardian examples and they are, just as a badge, so much nicer than the others.
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Old 29-01-17, 09:23 AM
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Frank,

I have quite a few Arty badges but did not have one of these or the SA version I also picked up yesterday so grabbed them both along with some other badges, all for the same price per badge.

Nice to be able to do it. Out of the seven I bought only one (Earl of Chesters IY) was a duffer so a fairly good return for my outlay of £28.
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Sorry, can´t supply you with references specific to the RA badge, other than general references referring to fittings for badges at the time. Introduced as: Pattern No. 9488; CB 0289 Royal Artillery: 5752/1902 : (to replace the grenade).

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Thomas,

The general rule of loops, long slider, short slider progression didnt take place on Artillery badges as it did on many badges thats why I asked for references.

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Sorry, can´t supply you with references specific to the RA badge, other than general references referring to fittings for badges at the time. Introduced as: Pattern No. 9488; CB 0289 Royal Artillery: 5752/1902 : (to replace the grenade).

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I don't follow. Precisely which grenade was replaced?

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Old 29-01-17, 11:40 AM
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Hello Jerry,
I think it just pays to examine any badge you might chance upon, I don't get to fairs these days, nor do I buy many badges either, but, if I am on holiday or visiting somewhere and I see an antique fair or shop, I will normally pop in for a very quick look around.
I certainly don't really bother with RA cap badges, the attached are the last couple I found under the above sort of circumstances, but, what lovely things they are, from memory, I think I paid a couple of quid each, okay so not rare, notwithstanding, still nice.
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I have quite a few Arty badges but did not have one of these or the SA version I also picked up yesterday so grabbed them both along with some other badges, all for the same price per badge.

Nice to be able to do it. Out of the seven I bought only one (Earl of Chesters IY) was a duffer so a fairly good return for my outlay of £28.
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Old 29-01-17, 11:43 AM
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Jerry,
In the wrong section here, but, if you like Artillery, get yourself a Transvaal Horse Artillery, they were an absolutely crack unit and did really well in GWSA.
Again, kind regards Frank.
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The general rule of loops, long slider, short slider progression didnt take place on Artillery badges as it did on many badges thats why I asked for references.

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OK, what did take place instead then? Surely the looped badges are considered early/Edwardian, suggesting later badges didn't come with loops?

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I don't follow. Precisely which grenade was replaced?

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Both the gilding metal universal grenade collar/shoulder badge worn by OR's on the field service cap 1890-1902 and the Grenadier Guards type grenade cap badge worn 1880-1902 on the puggaree of the FSH by both officers in gilt and OR's in gilding metal.

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Both the gilding metal universal grenade collar/shoulder badge worn by OR's on the field service cap 1890-1902 and the Grenadier Guards type grenade cap badge worn 1880-1902 on the puggaree of the FSH by both officers in gilt and OR's in gilding metal.

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Thanks for that. K&K misled me re no mention of the GG/RMA type grenade badge in gilding metal for regular Artillery.

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