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Old 09-11-21, 12:56 PM
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Default US Presidential Citation

Can anyone tell me if the Citation badge originally worn by the Glosters is still worn by one of the infantry regiments and if so which one?

If not when did it disappear?

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Old 09-11-21, 05:28 PM
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I think it disappeared when the 1st Bn RGBW was amalgamated.

Missing from Dress Regulations except for 170 (Imjin) Bty RA.

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Old 09-11-21, 05:32 PM
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I was going to say that,the citation went after 1 RGBWLI became a Rifles Btn in 2007. So not worn by the infantry.
But still worn by the Artillery unit that was entitled to wear it.
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Old 09-11-21, 05:49 PM
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The Gloster's back badge now worn only on the forage cap (?), the Brandywine flash and the Presidential Citation "swimming pool" gone, what other distinctions faded away with the advent of The Rifles? Are a Minden rose or roses worn?
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Old 09-11-21, 07:26 PM
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I cant.find any mention of Minden Roses in the dress guidance Leigh.
The red badge backing went when the Light Division band became the Rifles Band. Worn behind the bugle on the cord boss.
Bugles over the shoulder titles,the LI and RGJ both wore bugles as part of the s/t.
The use of forebearer regts crossbelt plates. The only exemption i know of is the 1st cadet btn KRRC. Officers wear a Rifles uniform but wear the old cadet btn crossbelt.

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Old 09-11-21, 07:44 PM
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Thanks Mike. A Wikipedia entry showed Minden Day as being celebrated by the 3rd and 5th Bns of The Rifles but doesn't mention wearing the white rose which was worn by the KOYLI and the Light Infantry.
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Responsibility for the disappearances must be laid squarely at the front door of
General M Jackson. He was the man who, when failing to admit that famous Regiments were to be disbanded, waffled - to which he was very prone - about retaining "Golden Threads". What a fairy tale !
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Old 09-11-21, 08:04 PM
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The dress guidance mentions golden threads,id have thought silver was more appropriate.
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Old 09-11-21, 08:09 PM
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Thanks Mike. A Wikipedia entry showed Minden Day as being celebrated by the 3rd and 5th Bns of The Rifles but doesn't mention wearing the white rose which was worn by the KOYLI and the Light Infantry.
The 2 battalions of LI became the 3rd and the 5th Rifles,so thats why Minden day is celebrated in those 2 battalions.
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Old 13-11-21, 11:30 AM
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I note an officer of The Rifles, an Aide de Camp to the Lord Mayor of London was briefly interviewed on TV this morning, he was wearing the Presidential Citation in No.2 Dress.
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Old 13-11-21, 12:37 PM
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The Rifles should be wearing the ribbon of the Croix de Guerre (1914-1918) on both upper arms.

Description: Uniform, Man’s No.2 Dress, Army All Ranks
Tunic NSN: 8405-99-968-5050 (Size Range 100)
Trousers NSN: 8405-99-968-1249 (Size Range 54)
Def Clothing Cat Ref: Sect. AT3/10, DMC CP Parade-Wear including Full Dress & Band Uniforms
Headdress: No 1 Dress Forage Cap complete. NSN: 8405-99-136-0356 to 0366.
Collar Badges: NSN: 8449-99-378-7178 (Bugle mouthpiece facing inwards).
Shoulder Titles: Black metal RIFLES on both shoulders. NSN: 8449-99-378-7177.
Croix de Guerre: On both arms. NSN: 8449-99-378-7177.

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Old 13-11-21, 12:41 PM
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You've got me wondering now - I'm fairly certain it was the Citation.
The Aide de Camp is involved with the Cadet forces, would that influence which emblem is worn?
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Old 13-11-21, 01:58 PM
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You've got me wondering now - I'm fairly certain it was the Citation.
The Aide de Camp is involved with the Cadet forces, would that influence which emblem is worn?
Leigh, if it was Capt Lade,its a.Croix de Guerre ribbon. I paused it at 48:49 . You can clearly see its green and red.
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Old 13-11-21, 02:07 PM
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Ah ta, I saw it as the swimming pool, thought it had a border.
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Old 13-11-21, 03:57 PM
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You could see he was wearing blackened "ACF". But no "Rifles" title. In one of my previous posts in this thread. The Rifles Officer of the 1st Cadet Btn KRRC wears "ACF" over "Rifles" ,both in black.
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