Riding sun badge dating - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Martyn123 · #1 14-10-23, 02:18 PM

Hi

If it possible to tell the difference between ww1 and ww2 rising sun badges please?

Many thanks
Martyn

kingsley · #2 15-10-23, 06:20 AM

WW1 (referring to ACMF of course) can be generally accepted if they are a distinctive British die, and WW2 if they are made by definite post-WW1 Australian makers, such as Arendsen, General Plastics, Sheridan, Miller, Amor, Angus & Coote. The most common dies by Stokes and Luke were made in both world wars and you can only make an inspired guess by the quality of the finish.
There are a lot of unmarked badges for which no one can make a definite decision.

badgecollector · #3 15-10-23, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kingsley

WW1 (referring to ACMF of course) can be generally accepted if they are a distinctive British die, and WW2 if they are made by definite post-WW1 Australian makers, such as Arendsen, General Plastics, Sheridan, Miller, Amor, Angus & Coote. The most common dies by Stokes and Luke were made in both world wars and you can only make an inspired guess by the quality of the finish.
There are a lot of unmarked badges for which no one can make a definite decision.

Kingsleys correct re WW1 Stokes and generally accepted distinctive British die with or without a British manufacturers mark.
WW2 as said but K. G. Luke was post ww2. around the mid 1920s if memory serves me correctly
BC

Martyn123 · #4 15-10-23, 07:12 AM

Many thanks both. I have a badge that I will have to post. It's been badly repaired by soldering and is a collar badge by Stokes

Martyn123 · #5 15-10-23, 08:14 AM

I would imagine that this is ww1 or ww2 as it is marked Stokes Melbourne. It's a collar badge which has been turned into a sweetheart as it has traces of enameling and then someone, unfortunately, has poorly soldered some rubbish lugs on, shame that they even tried. It was being thrown in with scrap so I rescued it and paid nothing for it. Would the finish give a clue to ww1 or ww2 please? Thank you

kingsley · #6 15-10-23, 10:29 AM

I can't read the maker name but the die looks like Luke to me. It is a very common badge and worn extensively in WW2.

badgecollector · #7 15-10-23, 10:45 AM

here martyn
compare yours to these. it does look WW2 but harder to tell with collars than hat badges

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4448

Martyn123 · #8 15-10-23, 12:13 PM

Many thanks. The maker is definitely Stokes but difficult to see except close up.