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Hello Iain,
A very good book, the authur, was actually there at the time! Regards Frank LOL at 20 cents! That is one of the reasons why older SA badges are hard to find in your own country! Quote:
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Hello Brian,
No, I don't have a copy, I will put it on the list, I think it was perhaps Major Tylden who said their motto could be interpreted as "We're it" or "We're here" I can't remember! I do actually prefer their earlier badges with the bi lingual scroll. Regards again Frank |
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Hi Frank,
James Ambrose Brown? I read his book "One Man's war;" he kept a diary of his time in the Western desert with the TS and he did refer back to Abyssinia on occasions. Think about it Frank, if you were to go out and buy a poster or print, similar to that, (and I dont mean an original where value has been added with age,) what would it cost today? I'm guessing at R60 to R80 in this country. regards, Iain
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Hello Steven,
You mentioned East African made cast badges, do you collect these, some very interesting and very rare badges were worn in the war, there was a little Rhino badge worn by the East African Armoured Car Regt etc. Regards Frank Quote:
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Good morning Iain,
Yes, that was him JAB, is he still with us? I would only want an original of anything, be it, a poster or indeed a badge, my point was just that all this stuff has another value outside your country and so much has now gone forever because of that very reason. Kind regards Frank Quote:
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Incidentally Iain,
I like your collar badges, I must have a look for a pair of those, not common things! Regards Frank |
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Good morning Frank,
i haven't added to the SATC for a while but generally if I'm collecting a certain unit's badges, as in this case the collars are blackened so I would have a blackened cap to match, so I still need plain collars also. I did gather what you were saying about the Rand's decline. It still isn't too expensive to live here but to holiday overseas, you have to keep your hands in your pockets Badges are still cheap here but you fight for the rare ones. Overseas buyers also poach the local market. Probably need to look offshore for the rare badges like you say regards, Iain
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Hello Iain,
Throughout the 1970's and 1980's, a lot and I do mean a lot, of badges were taken out of the country because they were just so cheap, there was a time here, when some Victorian made British badges were very hard to find and yet they were plentiful in South Africa, needless to say, there are far fewer there today! Regards Frank Quote:
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No, My main interest is medical and nursing. I do thave the East African Army Medical Corps and East African Military Nursing Service cast brass badges and also EAMS and EAAMC shoulder titles. The nursing badge is pretty rare - only seen 2 others. Steven |
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Hello Steven,
Well, I just wondered, I think all the East African stuff is actually quite rare these days, I very much like those badges and titles too! Regards Frank |
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Steven
I do not have a straight SAAF title in my collection but that is another story I would rather forget! But here it is.....A few years ago I was not into SAAF at all but had seen one or two of the straight titles in a box at a militaria shop near to where I stay and compared them to the SATC also at the same shop. Later when I became interested in SAAF items, these had been sold on. Brian |
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Thanks Brian,
I attache pics of the straight SAAF and SATC titles. The first is the large gilding metal title with looped lugs like Iain's example. This is the one that came onto the market in the past few years on mass and appears to be british made and very similar to early SA titles. The ones I have seen all appear to unpolished unissued gilding metal (referred to in earlier post as 'fire gilt' but in fact nothing like true fire gilt badges). The second is the SATC brass cast badge I believe made in East Africa as casr lugs are similar to East African badges. Note they are longer in length and shorter in height than the first SATC titles. These are the straight titles more often come across and the ones I referred to in my list of straight titles. Last is the SAAF straight title I am aware of. Note same as cast brass SATC. The UDF dress regulations for corps s/t only refer to the bilingual titles as official. Note these are pre war and probably worn by PF soldiers. My opinion on the straight titles is that they were manufactured for CF corps units. The CF regiments all had straight titles (whether english or afrikaans) and with the expansion of CF corps personnel, there must have been a shortage of titles. I also believe that these titles are all in English as most of the volunteers in the early days of WWII were english speaking members. Steven |
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Steven
That is the one! Glad you have one, you can clearly see the same pattern with the down-turned letters. Brian |
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Gentlemen,
At the risk of taking my own thread off topic, I can say that these are indeed very early war and were certainly worn at least for those few momentous months when the wretched "macaroni" lost his smug little empire! The example show below was worn by an old friend who is sadly no longer with us, he was a rigger and served with Number 1 Squadron SAAF at Wajir and then Dagabur, they were, at one point, down to just five usable Hurricanes! Regards to you both, Frank |
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Hello Iain,
I only bought the SATC badge in my original post on here because it came with a really nice example of the 8th Army "crusaders cross" on a South African flash, moreover, it was also a bullion example, though, in well used condition, but, I just thought it was nice, but, I don't have the collar badges as yet in the case of this SATC badge. Regards Frank Quote:
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