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Old 03-06-19, 06:53 PM
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Did 11th Hussars wear a brass arm badge?
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Old 04-06-19, 04:00 AM
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No not as far as I know, Arm Badges are either white metal or hallmarked silver (I have both) and the large sized brass is a pouch badge.

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Old 04-06-19, 09:18 AM
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They are widely faked in brass I am afraid.
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Old 04-06-19, 10:52 AM
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Here are 3 examples of 11th Hussars arm badges Hall Marked silver- silver plate and white metal
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Old 04-06-19, 11:24 AM
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Did 11th Hussars wear a brass arm badge?
As Phil has said, No is the official answer.

However, during WWII c.1943 in Egypt some theatre made cast Brass silver plated Arm Badges were produced. The silver plating apparently did not last very long with polishing, revealing the brass, which naturally continued to be polished by the wearer. It's said some of these badges were still being worn post WWII? This also happened to similar 'theatre made' Arm Badges of other Regiment's such as 3H,7H & 9L of which I have examples. So, perhaps at a pinch, you could say they did but not by design?

The 11H official Arm Badges can be found in White metal, Silver plate, Silver or HM Silver and Embroidered Bullion (large and small).

With regards to these Brass Arm Badges being utilised as OR's Pouch Badges, it's possible, but to date I can locate no reference or images to support this.
Langridge's Dress Distinctions 1960 illustrate two OR's Pouches and state that both had a 'Sgt's Arm Badges in white metal'.

There seems to be 100's of these spurious brass Arm Badges in circulation, some were certainly made by Marsh c.1970? No.53 in his catalogue. They might have been struck from an original die, and these badges by now will be getting a look of age about them so 'caveat emptor'.

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Old 07-06-19, 12:04 PM
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As Phil has said, No is the official answer.

However, during WWII c.1943 in Egypt some theatre made cast Brass silver plated Arm Badges were produced. The silver plating apparently did not last very long with polishing, revealing the brass, which naturally continued to be polished by the wearer. It's said some of these badges were still being worn post WWII? This also happened to similar 'theatre made' Arm Badges of other Regiment's such as 3H,7H & 9L of which I have examples. So, perhaps at a pinch, you could say they did but not by design?

The 11H official Arm Badges can be found in White metal, Silver plate, Silver or HM Silver and Embroidered Bullion (large and small).

With regards to these Brass Arm Badges being utilised as OR's Pouch Badges, it's possible, but to date I can locate no reference or images to support this.
Langridge's Dress Distinctions 1960 illustrate two OR's Pouches and state that both had a 'Sgt's Arm Badges in white metal'.

There seems to be 100's of these spurious brass Arm Badges in circulation, some were certainly made by Marsh c.1970? No.53 in his catalogue. They might have been struck from an original die, and these badges by now will be getting a look of age about them so 'caveat emptor'.

Hope that is of help.

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Rob
The Regimental Museum (HorsePower, The Museum of The King's Royal Hussars) has a good example of this. Attached to a WW2 battledress is the arm badge which at first glance looks brass. On closer inspection you can see the remains of the silver gilt. The uniform came directly from the widow many years ago with various other items so no doubt as to it's authenticity.

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I have been meaning to post this for a while.

This, along with a couple of other threads is a great post for those of us who have picked up the GM badge thinking it was a NCOs' arm badge.

Thanks all in this and other threads.

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