Large eagle 8 arm/pouch badge?

[cbuehler]

All,
Not sure what this is. I think it must be an arm badge, but to what? It is a very deeply struck badge which I tried to convey in the reverse picture.
Thanks much!

CB

[grey_green_acorn]

Looks like this one much discussed in this thread:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ighlight=eagle

[cbuehler]

Thanks for that. My badge is different from that shown on the thread. I is a higher quality strike and shows genuine age. Still a mystery here...

CB

[Lampwick]

Comparative view.

[cbuehler]

Many thanks to Lampwick for the camparitive view! As can be seen, the badges are different. I have no doubt my badge was actually worn as it shows some bull and curves inward from being bent slightly from top to bottom which is not apparent in the photo. That, along with the apparent age and patina makes me doubt this is a restrike or fake.

CB

[davec2]

Hi Conrad,

My example is very similar, it too is bent N/S very slightly, the lugs on mine are shorter than on yours, it is 41mm in height and 37mm over the lower wing tips.

I have been lead to believe it is an arm badge to the Royal Irish Rangers, rightly or wrongly, it will be in my next album as such, obviously if and when I'm corrected, I will alter my description.

Dave.

[Lampwick]

YAYYYY.. Dave's back!!! Just to muddy the water even further.. here's an Italian 8th Army General's belt buckle. Look familiar?

[cbuehler]

Thanks Dave and all,
The R. Irish Rangers connection seems strange. That regiment wore Rifle Regiment style accoutrements with primarily silver coloured badges and not gilt or brass, although the cap badge was bi-metal. Also, would it not be anodised at this point in time?
It would seem logical (to me anyway) that there must be some precedent association with the Royal Irish Fusiliers if this badge was worn at all.

CB

[davec2]

Hello again Conrad,

I may have erred slightly when saying the badge was to the Royal Irish Rangers, on checking, I find that my other eagle on the figure 8 is a pouch badge to the Royal Irish Regiment ( shown below ).

I can remember someone talking about the possibility of the brass/gm example, being an arm badge to the Regimental Police, perhaps that is the answer ??

Dave.

[cbuehler]

Hi Dave,
Yes, I saw that thread regarding the Regimental Police of the RIF. Perhaps someday we will get to the bottom of this matter!

CB

[Faugh-A-Ballagh]

Originally Posted by cbuehler

Thanks Dave and all,
The R. Irish Rangers connection seems strange. That regiment wore Rifle Regiment style accoutrements with primarily silver coloured badges and not gilt or brass, although the cap badge was bi-metal. Also, would it not be anodised at this point in time?
It would seem logical (to me anyway) that there must be some precedent association with the Royal Irish Fusiliers if this badge was worn at all.

CB

The Royal Irish Rangers was an amalgamation of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, Royal Ulster Rifles and Royal Irish Fusiliers. Later amalgamated with the Ulster Defence Regiment to form the Royal Irish Regiment.
A mixture of Fusiliers and a Rifle regiment. The Eagle of the Irish Fusiliers always kept as a very proud part of their heritage. Not going to go into the whole story of it again, as it's been mentioned a few times on here before.

The badge in question has been debated a few times. The best explaination, which came from the museum is that it is an arm badge for the Royal Irish Fusiliers regimental police. But there are lots of them out there!

John

[davec2]

Cheers John,

I think I will go with what I've got until someone comes up with something different, so in my case both my badges are accounted for.

I posted a few for you today, you should get them tomorrow or Wednesday, I hope so anyway.

Take care mate.

Dave.