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Royal Warwickshire
An unofficial commission of a badge that was authorised for production.
No maker's mark. Die struck reverse. Bought from £5 from Jeremy Tenniswood in 2005. he had a box of them. Last edited by Alan O; 08-04-16 at 05:17 PM. |
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Queen's Crown Highland Light Infantry
A badge that was not authorised for production.
No maker's mark. Die struck reverse. Last edited by Alan O; 04-04-16 at 03:52 PM. |
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Fife and Forfar Yeomanry
A badge that was not authorised for production in a/a.
No maker's mark. Die struck reverse. This one cost me $10. |
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Loyal Suffolk Hussars yeomanry
A badge that was not authorised for production.
No maker's mark. Die struck reverse. |
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Royal Ulster Rifles King's Crown
A badge that was not authorised for production.
No maker's mark. Die struck reverse. Bought for £3 in Devizes in 2006. |
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I know this is an older thread but is this a copy of an authorised badge rather than a "not authorised for production" badge?
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Mike,
Post #5, Loyal suffolk hussars, he says its unofficial which i think is wrong, rather it appears to be 80's copy
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Erm, I have one of these HLI badges and to throw a spanner in the works. I got it off of the shelf in shed D2 at COD Bicester in 1983 during a stock reconciliation task. They were obsolescent and marked for disposal so I had one (I was a kid at the time and knew little about badges or I would have half inched the other 7 or so on the shelf!). So I don't know know about unauthorised, but having a part number, being held in the Army depot and me getting it from there sort of makes it official to me. I did also let Chris know about this when I contacted him about another supposed fake - the Gordons with BY DAND instead of BYDAND, again I got mine off the shelf in the depot.
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I see from Chris's collection site that this is deemed a fake.
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I notice from Chris's collection http://www.smle.army-cap-badges.talk...dised_Infantry that he shows one for the Welch and one for the SWB that he calls unofficial commission for the Welch and unofficial comm ACF CCF for the SWBords. Does that make these fakes or unofficial but genuine badges?
It would be great if someone can comment on this. I know from other threads that the Welch is made from the Gaunt die but Alan in this thread http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=52768 calls it A copy of a badge that was authorised for production. and in the first post refers to the SWBords as a fake. Where does that leave the Welsh and SWBords badges as I have both (I have two of the Welch) and one day might wish to sell them. If Chris says they are unofficial but does not call them fakes (as he has with the By Dand Gordons), but Alan does call them copies for the Welch or fake for the SWBords, which makes them not allowed to be sold on this forum. Obviously I could ebay them and they would both sell, but I would not wish to sell them as unofficial but genuine if they are indeed fakes/copies.
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We did see some very odd badges in the depot at Bicester when I was there. I personally saw (and have) a Gordons with BY DAND - one of the so called non-existent badges as well as examples from R Leicesters, HLI, Notts and Derby, SWB, Camerons, R Irish Fus and R Innis Fus. We had them on a board to help with recognition when new stocks came in. Clearly these were examples that had been there for aeons as I only started work there in 1983.
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Interesting.. I took six of these off of the shelves of shed D2 and D1 at COD Bicester in 1983 whilst doing stock reconciliations and obsolescence clearance. I kept one as it was an interesting badge (I wasn't a collector at the time) and have had it since. So, in answer, it must have been authorised for production because it made it to the MOD storage depot and had a NSN. Whether it was ever issued is the question, but as only six were left when I cleared them out there must have been more as MOD never bought badges,especially cheap and cheerful staybrites, in batches of less that 20-30 from my experience - the stock card I recall had held these six as annual checks for so long no other issues were recorded.
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The HLI and Gordons badges were the ones I was referring to. Mentioned by Alan O quite early in this chain. Someone authorised them as they were on the shelves of an MOD site!
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