Victorian Gunnery badge..... WOW!!!!!!!!

[Nozzer]

Congratulations to whoever won this badge I was going to bid, but it was soon out of my league

Was it a forum member?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...c#ht_858wt_932

[Phil2M]

Is it a cannon Xed with a Rocket?

[2747andy]

LOL

A Victorian Torpedo? Did they have Para wings for sale too?

Andy

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

LOL

A Victorian Torpedo? Did they have Para wings for sale too?

Andy

I believe that the torpedo as we understand it today, came into use in the Senior Service in about 1870 (I think).

[2747andy]

I could be wrong as cloth is not my area but it looks like a grubby post 1950s badge to me, plus the machine stitching?

Andy

[Nozzer]

I don't think that the RN had a trade badge anything like that after 1953. I have shown a post '53 crown of similar size for comparison. I think you can clearly see the difference.

[Phil2M]

They had sewing machines in the Victorian era, they had torpedoes too. I believe early, crude, torpedoes were tried out, submarines too, in the early 1800s. This badge is very odd, though!

[Nozzer]

Not quite the same, but I think that you will get the idea. Scroll down to near the bottom..........

http://www.buywyze.com/shop.php

[Phil2M]

The crown is obviously a bit worn on the ebay example, its clearer on the buywize one.

[Mike_2817]

Originally Posted by andyh

I believe that the torpedo as we understand it today, came into use in the Senior Service in about 1870 (I think).

Badge I do not know about! but torpedo's are earler than many think

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo

Robert Whitehead (3 January 1823 – 14 November 1905) was an English engineer. Who developed the first effective self-propelled naval torpedo. His company, located in the Austrian naval centre in Rijeka (Fiume), was the world leader in torpedo development and production up to the First World War

Royal Navy representatives visited the Fiume naval centre in Rijeka for a demonstration in late 1869, and in 1870 a first batch of torpedoes was ordered.

In 1871, the British Admiralty paid Whitehead £15,000 for certain of his developments and production started at the Royal Laboratories in Woolwich the following year.

In 1893, RN torpedo production was transferred to the Royal Gun Factory. The British later established a Torpedo Experimental Establishment at HMS Vernon and a production facility at the Royal Naval Torpedo Factory, Greenock in 1910.

[2747andy]

Oh well! Live and learn....

I'll stick to cap badges

Andy

[Mike_2817]

Originally Posted by Phil2M

The crown is obviously a bit worn on the ebay example, its clearer on the buywize one.

Type 'Gunnery badge' into search to find it quicker

[RCN]

There is nothing wrong with this badge mates-- its 100% period.

I too wanted to lay my hands on it but was outbid. Its very very rare, somewhat surprised at the price realized but for this badge I think as expected - I was close.

Seaman Gunner (Torpedo) 1st class -1885-1890

badge is shown below for future ---


RCN Bryan