P of Wales Cavalry?, but which one - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

JerryBB · #1 29-04-17, 03:28 PM

Picked up today, Swansea photographer, Prince of Wales cap badges with scroll, P of Wales collars without scroll. Post WWI I think.

Not sharp enough to see clearly who they are, though they appear to have P of Wales arm badges on one of the nco's.

My original thoughts being a Swansea photographer that they were Welsh but 10th Hussars or Wilts Yeo.....I'll work it eventually but any help is greatly appreciated.

GriffMJ · #2 29-04-17, 03:43 PM

could be 3DG or 10thH Jerry..... but my guess would be 3DG because I can not see any NCO Arm POWFs.

That white throat plume is a generic .... probably because of the post war period. Normally red over black for 3DG.... and if 10th H then crimson.

JerryBB · #3 29-04-17, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GriffMJ

could be 3DG or 10thH Jerry..... but my guess would be 3DG because I can not see any NCO Arm POWFs.

That white throat plume is a generic .... probably because of the post war period. Normally red over black for 3DG.... and if 10th H then crimson.

Thanks Griff, I hoped I had put enough in the title to attract your always welcome and helpful opinion.

it is always 3DG or 10th H....

I thought the NCO next to the officer has a pow arm badge

3748 Hussar · #4 29-04-17, 04:07 PM

Jerry,

The officer's stirrup slides might give you a better idea as to which regiment it could be .

3748 Hussar

GriffMJ · #5 29-04-17, 04:08 PM

Oooo yes... now... I see it. I thought was signals flags.... but its a POWFs. Now ..... if the JNCOs do not have POWFs on their arms then 3DG.

JerryBB · #6 29-04-17, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 3748 Hussar

Jerry,

The officer's stirrup slides might give you a better idea as to which regiment it could be .

3748 Hussar

Thanks for commenting

They appear to have Pof Wales feathers.

JerryBB · #7 29-04-17, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GriffMJ

Oooo yes... now... I see it. I thought was signals flags.... but its a POWFs. Now ..... if the JNCOs do not have POWFs on their arms then 3DG.

No sign of any armbadge on junior nco Griff

Frank Kelley · #8 29-04-17, 04:53 PM

Hello Jerry,
Another super photograph, it is certainly nice to see original photographs in peoples collections rather than just those from the IWM's own site on here.
A superb image and the Swansea photographer, a dare say, a "must" have, if so, I don't blame you, a lovely thing.
Regards Frank

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Originally Posted by JBBOND

Picked up today, Swansea photographer, Prince of Wales cap badges with scroll, P of Wales collars without scroll. Post WWI I think.

Not sharp enough to see clearly who they are, though they appear to have P of Wales arm badges on one of the nco's.

My original thoughts being a Swansea photographer that they were Welsh but 10th Hussars or Wilts Yeo.....I'll work it eventually but any help is greatly appreciated.

JerryBB · #9 29-04-17, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

Hello Jerry,
Another super photograph, it is certainly nice to see original photographs in peoples collections rather than just those from the IWM's own site on here.
A superb image and the Swansea photographer, a dare say, a "must" have, if so, I don't blame you, a lovely thing.
Regards Frank

Thanks Frank.

As you say, Swansea is close enough for me to make it a must have, in fact I am currently working in Swansea, though this came from the fair at Builth Wells today.

A sensible price was asked for this one considering it is 16 inches wide and still in its original frame, which is why I have not scanned it as it seems a shame to take it out.

Frank Kelley · #10 29-04-17, 05:12 PM

Hello Jerry,
Yes, very sensible, if the frame is sound, then I would certainly leave as is, original frames are always nice to see and as long as they are free of issues such as woodworm, a bit of tender loving care is all that is needed, find somewhere to place/hang it and enjoy it.
Regards Frank

3748 Hussar · #11 30-04-17, 01:04 PM

Griff,

thought the 10th Hussars throat plume was white , 11th Hussars crimson .

3748 Hussar

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Originally Posted by GriffMJ

could be 3DG or 10thH Jerry..... but my guess would be 3DG because I can not see any NCO Arm POWFs.

That white throat plume is a generic .... probably because of the post war period. Normally red over black for 3DG.... and if 10th H then crimson.

GriffMJ · #12 30-04-17, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 3748 Hussar

Griff,

thought the 10th Hussars throat plume was white , 11th Hussars crimson .

3748 Hussar

My bad....

.... saying that an Officer of the 10th Hussars in 1914-18 (full dress) retained the cowrie shell throat ornament along with the other leather work. Looking at my book of Hussars I cant see the 10th H having a throat plume.

11th H = crimson over white throat plume, 1865 and 1911.

JerryBB · #13 30-04-17, 03:17 PM

3DG or 10Hussars then guys?☠

JerryBB · #14 01-05-17, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GriffMJ

Oooo yes... now... I see it. I thought was signals flags.... but its a POWFs. Now ..... if the JNCOs do not have POWFs on their arms then 3DG.

I notice in Linaker & Dine in the section on 3DG that the Cpl's and Lcpl's that they do wear the PofWales feathers badge.

I only recently got a copy and I'm still working through it.

JerryBB · #15 01-05-17, 12:08 PM

I am not sure if this helps at all, but I opened the frame up in case it was annotated on the back of the picture (which it was not) and on the inside of the backing card is the below from a delivery to the Storekeeper at Cheshire Mental hospital with parcel paid railway postage tickets for February 1937 from a cut up package/parcel from Norwood Junction to Chester.