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Very strange fitting indeed.
Not seen that on any other badge either. Usually the bar type shaped like a cropped pyramid. I can only think of RRF,RWF and Solihull CCF on anodised that have a hackle holder fitted to the badge. I did see a few days back ,an RWF with the lugs removed then refitted north and south. I presume this was to fit to the chrome plate for the belt. |
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All interesting little variations.
RRF's stable belt plate bore what was in effect the anod al beret badge but produced without the hackle attachment and with shorter lugs. You find the beret badge with hackle attachment broken off being used as an improvised stable belt badge and the stable belt badge painted black for use as an improvised beret badge for NI wear. The stable belts were of impractical design, an anod al badge fitted to a brass belt plate with a cotter pin and for some goodness knew why reason with two small brass washers. The badge got worn and damaged easily and the brass work needed Brassoing front and back, so the badge had to be constantly removed and replaced and if the badge lugs got broken you had to adapt a beret badge or buy a complete new belt and plate. The QMs scrutinised all beret badges offered for exchange to ensure that no one was attempting to pull a fast one with a belt plate badge. Beret badges usually broke at the junction of ball and flames and both parts had to be produced, not just one. At least, that were it in mah day back in't 70's. I don't know what sort of arrangement RWF had with belt plates and fittings, but the grenade badges look a little more substantial at the junction of ball and flame than the RRF design. |
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Hello
I have been reading this thread with interest,especially when it is said that the RWF slidered is fairly scarce Here is my slidered Gaunt one for scrutiny, Chris |
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Nice, I have two on sliders, both by Firmin London
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That tubular hackle holder is from after my time, Leigh, and I’ve not seen it before. What is clear to me though is that someone has bent together the prongs/lugs that protrude horizontally from the back of the badge, probably to secure it closer to the beret without using a cotter pin. I’ve seen that done quite frequently. Personally I used plastic separators from the inside of ammunition boxes with two apertures punched through which could then receive the prongs with a snug fit.
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Hi Guys,
The early RWF badges had sliders and this was changed in 1970 to lugs. Each badge had its own CB No. with the later badge also being issued a NSN at a later date. I could not find the pattern No. for the slider badge but the lugged badge was 20264. Regards, Chris |
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Thank you for sharing Jerry,
Interesting they made two different versions in such a short space of time, I wonder what they thought was wrong with the first one they made? Chris |
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Chris, one has had its slider bent, making it look more different than it is.
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Gents, a really interesting thread - which I have just re read. Was it really nearly 10 years ago that this thread was started by Mike? Where does the time go?
Since my earlier post I have obtained a nice slidered example by R A Hughes - which should be one of the earliest examples the anodised RWF with a slider in AA. I also attach my RWF page which should show all the various lug and rivet combinations etc, that I've identified. If it cant be seen clearly, I'm happy to add it so it can be read more efficiently. Also - could the slider or lug issue be attributed to a pre or post Brigade era badge? Just thinking out loud. Regards all BESS Last edited by bess55; 19-06-19 at 11:00 AM. Reason: shabby spelling |
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And super collection BESS, thank you for sharing. Chris |
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