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Old 03-07-20, 10:38 AM
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Default Royal Anglian Regiment Field Officer's Forage Cap.

A Royal Anglian Regiment cap but bearing gilt buttons of The Royal Norfolk Regiment which were also worn by The East Anglian Brigade.
The cap has been fitted with at least one, perhaps two different badges, presumably of one of the "Royal Regiments" that formed The East Anglian Brigade and / or the Brigade badge.
It appears that the buttons weren't changed to those of the new regiment, just the badge.
Slightly misshapen, the crown sits higher when the cap assumes its proper shape.

Infantry Depot “G” at Colchester was the headquarters for the county regiments of the east of England which recruited in Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Huntingdonshire, Norfolk, Northamptonshire and Suffolk.

On 14/7/1948 it became The East Anglian Brigade, administering these regiments recruited from the East Anglia area of England, & was based at Bury St Edmunds

It consisted of:

The Royal Norfolk Regiment

The Suffolk Regiment

The Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment

The Essex Regiment

The Northamptonshire Regiment

Following the Defence Review of 1957, in 1958 The Royal Lincolnshire Regiment
Was transferred to The East Anglian Brigade from The Forester Brigade.
The now six regiments of the Brigade underwent amalgamations to form three new regiments:

On 2/6/1958 The Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment & The Essex Regiment amalgamated to form

The 3rd East Anglian Regiment (16th/44th Foot).

On 29/8/1959 The Royal Norfolk Regiment and The Suffolk Regiment amalgamated to form

The 1st East Anglian Regiment (Royal Norfolk and Suffolk).

On 1/6/1960 The Royal Lincolnshire Regiment and The Northamptonshire Regiment amalgamated to form

The 2nd East Anglian Regiment (Duchess of Gloucester's Own Royal Lincolnshire and Northamptonshire)

Brigade cap badges & buttons were adopted, the design of the cap badge being an eight pointed star bearing the castle & key of Gibralter, with a scroll bearing “East Anglia”, the buttons bore the figure of Brittania.

The three new regiments wore different collar badges & coloured lanyards:
The 1st East Anglian Regiment wore collar badges showing Brittania in front of the Castle of Gibraltar & wore a yellow lanyard.

The 2nd East Anglian Regiment wore collar badges of a sphinx on a tablet inscribed "Egypt", over a scroll bearing the battle honour “Talavera”, & wore a black lanyard.

The 3rd East Anglian Regiment wore collar badges of a Napoleonic eagle within The Garter and a pompadour purple lanyard.

In 1963 The Royal Leicestershire Regiment was transferred to The East Anglian Brigade from the Forester Brigade, & wore the East Anglian Brigade cap badge with collar badges of a tiger within an unbroken laurel wreath, & a pearl grey, black and scarlet lanyard.

In 1964, the four regiments of the Brigade were amalgamated to form The Royal Anglian Regiment.

On 1/7/1968 The East Anglian Brigade joined with The Home Counties Brigade & The Fusilier Brigade to form The Queen’s Division.
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Old 03-07-20, 10:59 AM
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Hi Leigh, those buttons are the mess dress type, not the normal cap button. I believe this has been worn by some one who served in the royal Norfolk then east Anglia then royal Anglian then most likely reserve, and was probably very active in the regimental association.
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Old 03-07-20, 11:01 AM
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You may find a name under the tan sweat band
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Old 03-07-20, 11:15 AM
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Thanks, I did wonder if the buttons may be mess dress rather than cap - from seeing a photo of a card of a variety of Norfolk and Royal Norfolk cap and mess dress buttons at auction a couple of years ago, I have the photo somewhere.

I would've (should've) checked the sweatband for a name when I got the cap, I'll have another look in case I found one and forgot to record it.
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Old 03-07-20, 01:19 PM
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Would anyone have a photo of the collar badges to the 4th The royal Anglian?
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Old 03-07-20, 01:21 PM
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Were they the oval laurel wreath with tiger?
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I have a collar badge with the lion's paw facing up in silver and gilt. I thought this was for the 4th.
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Old 03-07-20, 01:37 PM
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I think a lions paw up version is mentioned in Churchill's for an officer's pattern but can't remember the details, I'll check.
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Churchill's re. The Royal Leicestershire Regiment - "Officers wore similar badges to the other ranks on their tunic and frock collars, 'The Royal Tiger in silver within a wreath in gilt metal.' Later extended to the mess jacket. (Fig. 535 shows a variant with the front paw raised higher than usual).
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Old 03-07-20, 11:13 PM
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Thanks for your help Leigh.
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You may find a name under the tan sweat band
I've just checked - no name on the sweatband unfortunately.
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Churchill's re. The Royal Leicestershire Regiment - "Officers wore similar badges to the other ranks on their tunic and frock collars, 'The Royal Tiger in silver within a wreath in gilt metal.' Later extended to the mess jacket. (Fig. 535 shows a variant with the front paw raised higher than usual).
Later in his book, he states that the paw up is just a different manufacturer variation.
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Old 04-07-20, 01:16 PM
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In the copy I have it's just mentioned in general that the various designs of collar badges come with different sizes and shapes of tigers, paw up, paw down, voiding varying depending on manufacturer.

It's a pity the book didn't include the "new" regiments of the post Brigade era other than brief mentions where badges continued in use or were their updated editions?
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