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Rob,
Very impressed with your new Button albums. A lot of research gone into those and much appreciated. I only collect buttons to the constituent units of the Manchester Regiment and my favourites are those made in Ireland for the Officers of the 63rd Foot whilst stationed there. I have 2 makers, namely:- A. Clancy, Dublin; P. Tait & Co, Limerick I also like Manchester based makers and have buttons to the Manchester Regiment by:- J.H. Hilton & Co, Manchester (QVC) David Jones, Manchester (KC) There must be overseas makers of this Regiments buttons out there but havent seen any so far. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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I'm sure your are right about the other ranks aspect. My original information said military outfitters and tailors (rather than button makers) but I suspect the emphasis was on outfitters rather than bespoke tailors! I found a reference to a 1924 advert for them as "manufacturer of military accoutrements, uniforms, oilskin & india rubber goods, tarpaulins, tent, saddlery, horse clothing, outfitting etc. wholesale & export merchants and general warehousemen, government contractors". Not exactly Hawkes & Co of Savile Row! Roger |
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Its nice to connect a local back mark to a Regiment of interest, I have a few Plymouth and Exeter back marked buttons to go with my Devon Regiment interests. Talking of P.TAIT of Limerick, did I read somewhere that their buttons were made by Smith & Wright? Rob |
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Roger,
Outfitters and not makers, thats good to know. Do you know if the other Irish 'maker' was such and also the two Manchester 'makers'? regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Hello Simon
I have David Jones of Manchester as a tailor/outfitter and the same for J H Milton & Co, Manchester (you mentioned 'Hilton' but is this possibly 'Milton'?). As for Clancy, Dublin, I have only records of their backmark, no record of whether they were maker or retailer. I suspect they were a retailer of one form or another simply because their name does not appear as often as I would expect if they were a maker. That's just speculation though and I may well be wrong. Roger |
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Thanks Roger, all good info.
regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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The only Manchester back mark I have found is this one on a WM QVC GS button.
Rob |
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Thanks Rob, not seen that maker/outfitter before.
regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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My brief list of Manchester marks on uniform buttons:
Briggs Jones & Gibson (1924) Ltd, Manchester Briggs Jones & Gibson Ltd, Manr Davis & Yoxall, Manchester H.T. & B., Manchester Hammond Turner & Bates, Manchester J.H. Milton & Co, Manchester J.S. Stubbs, Manchester |
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I will keep my eyes open for them on any Manchester Regiment buttons. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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A large Kings Crown GM general service button with moths marked C J Webb & Co Ltd Birmingham, is this another tailor or retailer?
Rob |
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Hello Rob
As far as I am aware, C J Webb & Co did not make the buttons themselves as they were clothing manufacturers, so probably bought in the buttons they used on uniforms. In this case it looks as if the buttons were made by Smith & Wright again. I believe this is the firm that combined with J Compton & Sons in 1922 to form J Compton Sons & Webb. Roger |
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Thanks Roger
Increasingly I'm finding the backs of buttons more interesting than the fronts. Rob |
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Have you considered getting professional help?
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