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Old 09-06-18, 02:05 PM
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Default 7th Gurkha Rifles felt hat

I bought this Gurkha felt hat this morning and I think that it might have been worn by a Rifleman of the 7th Gurkha Rifles. The badge backing seems to be the right tartan but the original badge is missing. The hat band is definitely post war and the original owners service number and his faded name are just visible.

is there anyway of dating the hat and identifying the original owner?
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Old 09-06-18, 09:51 PM
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the sweatband looks very artificial fake leather so probably no older than the 60's and perhaps much newer.

A Gurkha expert might be able to date the block number allocation but unless he did something famous you are unlikely to get much info on him IMO.
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Old 10-06-18, 05:33 AM
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Jerry,

many thanks. It is definitely a faux leather modern sweat band. I would like to know which would be the correct badge for a 7th Gurkha Rifles hat of this period. I suspect that it might be the O.R.'s version of this one.

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Old 10-06-18, 06:51 AM
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The one I have, a similar date to yours Jon.
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Old 10-06-18, 08:30 AM
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According to Kelly's badges your tartan is Hunting Stewart worn by the 10th (P.M.O.) Gurkha Rifles, whilst mine is Cameron of Erracht worn by the 7th Gurkha Rifles.
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The Cameron of Erracht tartan was authorised for the 7th GR in March 1973 - to mark the affiliation of the Regt with the Queens Own Highlanders ( Seaforth and Camerons) - ( the original affiliation had been with the Cameronians ) and was worn from then until 1994. The Hunting Stewart Tartan was worn by the 10th GR and is still worn by the Royal Gurkha Rifles to this day. Tim
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The Cameron of Erracht tartan was authorised for the 7th GR in March 1973 - to mark the affiliation of the Regt with the Queens Own Highlanders ( Seaforth and Camerons) - ( the original affiliation had been with the Cameronians ) and was worn from then until 1994. The Hunting Stewart Tartan was worn by the 10th GR and is still worn by the Royal Gurkha Rifles to this day. Tim
Many thanks for the information which helps to date my hat. Can you help with the service number? How do Gurkha service numbers work. Is it one long sequence from a particular date or are regiments numbered individually?
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Old 11-06-18, 12:19 PM
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Can't help you on the numbers I'm afraid - one thing that I did notice on your patch which intrigued me is that there is evidence of three fixing holes in the tartan backing - I can't for the life of me think of a 7GR badge of that period that wouldn't have just two lugs ?
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Was there not a two piece 7th Gurkhas a/a cap badge?
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No there wasn't - It's not listed in the definitive work on the subject "No Bull" - and I've certainly never seen one. Tim
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2 piece Gurkha signals? The main badge with lugs east and west on the 'jimmy'? It would I would imagine have to be a metal one as the anodised has all lugs vertically linear.

Just a suggestion chaps

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Old 11-06-18, 05:16 PM
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There was a 7thGR badge made with a slider. Possibly at some time the hat had both versions fitted to it. That would explain the higher extra hole in the patch.

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A senior moment - edited, checking to see if I have photos of 2 RGR Companies (and their tartan badge backings) attached to 1RS & 2 Para that I had dealings with in Bosnia, c1999/2000.

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I'm wondering if what appears to be two layers of felt stitched together was to give the brim stiffness?

I wore felt hats for 30 years in snow, rain, dust and mud. Rabbit felt (Akubra) doesn't seem to withstand the elements as good as beaver felt, especially a higher standard say 10x and above.
But what does give the brim stiffness that will last for years is spraying the hat with women's hair spray. If you do that once a week for a few months it will last for years and is totally impervious to the elements.
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Old 16-06-18, 08:18 AM
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I've read that Ghurkas wear two hats, one inside the other, hence the double thickness.
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