Canadians in the RNAS

[RCN]

Canada had no formal RCNAS until very late in the Great war, but many Canadians served in the RNAS.

Actually I have in my collection the medals to the first Canadian Naval officer to qualify as an RNAS Airship pilot in 1915.
In a future post I will show his cap, cap badge, medals, photos etc.

Since Canadians served in the RNAS & would have worn the insignia of that unit, I have shown below three of the badges worn by ratings serving in the RNAS:

[RCN]

Many Canadian officers served in the RNAS, here is an example of the cap badge they wore:

[RCN]

& there are variants of the RNAS Officers cap badge as well. Illustrated below is the cap & cap badge of the RCN Officer I mention in the first post above::

[RCN]

In mid summer 1918 Canada finally established its own RCNAS. A cap badge was designed & apparently worn by these ratings.

However this is a very controversial badge as an original is quite rare & it was repro'd in the 1970's period. Also a number of them were located in a lot together (or so he claimed) in the late '70's by a Canadian dealer of the time & gradually introduced into the market. I dont think it was ever established with any degree of certaintly if these badges were originals or tailor's copies, or just plain repros.

So if anyone reading this post has example(s) of this badge pls feel free to post them.......

[RCN]

I am going to be away for the next 6 wks so will not be able to answer any responses, but feel free to post examples in any event....................

Bryan

[RonArm]

Hi RCN ----this badge was up for sale on ebay for $140.00 US. the question is? is this badge one of those Reproduction that your talking about or is it the real thing
I personally do not know the differance

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[RCAF_Mike]

Originally Posted by RCN

[COLOR="Navy"]In mid summer 1918 Canada finally established its own RCNAS. A cap badge was designed & apparently worn by these ratings.
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This is indeed the ratings (ORs) cap badge. The officer's Cap Badge and wings are similar in construction with a silver overlay over crown and wings, and there's no connection bewteen the wings and crown. Of course the cadets wore a stylised General List cap badge.

[RCN]

Originally Posted by RonArm

Hi RCN ----this badge was up for sale on ebay for $140.00 US. the question is? is this badge one of those Reproduction that your talking about or is it the real thing
I personally do not know the differance

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Ron, the badge appears to be good to me, this vendor I know very well, he has a good reputation & does not sell fakes or repros.
However I am sure you have already read above my comments in regard to this badge, if you wish to know more details on this pls PM me & I will provide same.

Bryan

[ncc]

[QUOTE=RCN;59038]Canada had no formal RCNAS until very late in the Great war, but many Canadians served in the RNAS.

Actually I have in my collection the medals to the first Canadian Naval officer to qualify as an RNAS Airship pilot in 1915.
In a future post I will show his cap, cap badge, medals, photos etc.

Since Canadians served in the RNAS & would have worn the insignia of that unit, I have shown below three of the badges worn by ratings serving in the RNAS:[/QUOTE

i don't think any of the badges shown were worn by the rnas,
the first is po rnd,
second raf 1918 airmans
third is wraf 1918.
Bob

[alco]

Ha - haaaa !!

Is this the beginning of a specialists contest ?

the two parties to present their arguments ...

[RCN]

Originally Posted by alco

Ha - haaaa !!

Is this the beginning of a specialists contest ?

the two parties to present their arguments ...

No Alco, I dont argue anymore, leave that to the lawyers!

Bob is entitled to his opinion, even if I dont necessarily agree,

Bryan

[RCAF_Mike]

RNAS Ratings cap badges had an anchor instead of an eagle if I remember correctly...

[alco]

Hi all,
No battle there as we are on a field where nothing can be invented.
Uniformology, as (small) part of History, is based on facts and in this case the problem is to locate the exact regulation order.

Seems that sources have different interpretations :
= Cdr May shows the eagle cap badge for RNAS CPO in chapter 3 p.236

= Bob's reference could be this site where the eagle is for early RAF (RNAS retaining the anchor badge) :
http://www.britairforce.com/raf_ranks_1.htm

so, who's right ?

[ncc]

its not referenced from a web site,i once owned a sealed pattern for the 1918 airmans and the 1918 wraf badge also the 1918 raf ncos badge which was the same pattern but yellow bird and crown.
attached pic of rnas rating, anchor badge, wings on the arm usually cloth or bullion the attached badge came with the card so they might also have had metal ones.

[RonArm]

Originally Posted by RCN

In mid summer 1918 Canada finally established its own RCNAS. A cap badge was designed & apparently worn by these ratings.

However this is a very controversial badge as an original is quite rare & it was repro'd in the 1970's period. Also a number of them were located in a lot together (or so he claimed) in the late '70's by a Canadian dealer of the time & gradually introduced into the market. I dont think it was ever established with any degree of certaintly if these badges were originals or tailor's copies, or just plain repros.

So if anyone reading this post has example(s) of this badge pls feel free to post them.......

After much research I came across this article in the Royal Canadian Navy magazine "The Crowsnest" dated 1964, also I noticed this badge is being displayed as a issued badge http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/can...vice/index.htm