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Old 21-11-21, 08:32 AM
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Default Help with Victorian Crown ER Button identification

I post this some time ago but as I now have two and I little more info I would like to ask again.
Squeaky wheel so to speak.

I have been searching for such a long time to find out where this button fits in...
And if it could be part of any New Zealand Volunteer units
that seved here at that time.

I first found the button long ago at a car boot sale in a bag of military buttons.
Then just this weekend I popped into a local antique shop and had a rummage in a box of buttons and found a bunch of white metal Volunteer Artillery buttons and also what I think is a small brass General services corps Volunteers, all with the Victorian crowns.
But to my surprise in amongst the lot was another brass Vic Crown ER .
So now I have two of these mystery button's

All I have found is the maker
Smith & Wright Ltd, the limited added 1888-1889.
With the crown obviously changing 1901.
So that's my time frame

I have also only recently found this exact button in a NZ volunteer button collection with the description ER?.
Sadly the owner of that collection has passed away .
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Thanks for taking the time to read.
Any help appreciated.

Cheers
Corey
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Old 23-11-21, 05:18 AM
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Most definitely it is an Edward Rex cypher of King Edward VII (1901 to 1910).
I would doubt that it is NZ Volunteer as the 1895 universal-pattern volunteer button was in use at that time.
It could be a NZ Volunteer officers button, but it is not officer quality IMO.
Possibly an NCOs button for someone on the Permanent Staff.
Until one turns up on a hat or uniform it will remain an enigma.
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Old 23-11-21, 05:54 AM
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Most definitely it is an Edward Rex cypher of King Edward VII (1901 to 1910).
I would doubt that it is NZ Volunteer as the 1895 universal-pattern volunteer button was in use at that time.
It could be a NZ Volunteer officers button, but it is not officer quality IMO.
Possibly an NCOs button for someone on the Permanent Staff.
Until one turns up on a hat or uniform it will remain an enigma.
Just an observation and opinion... I doubt the ER relates to Edward Rex and suggest the 'R' represents the word Rifles, so we could be looking at a Victorian period 'E.. Rifles' unit
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Old 23-11-21, 06:47 AM
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Just an observation and opinion... I doubt the ER relates to Edward Rex and suggest the 'R' represents the word Rifles, so we could be looking at a Victorian period 'E.. Rifles' unit
As far as NZ Volunteer buttons go, without a crown could be 'E? Rifles,' but with a crown its a cypher that matches the one used by Edward VII.
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Old 23-11-21, 06:58 AM
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It may be a Railways button

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