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Old 28-12-18, 02:36 PM
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I suspect this patch is Australian so have posted it here for any comments.

As well as looking for an ID, I'm interested in knowing what era this patch is. I should say that it's likely to be moved on at some stage as its not my area of collecting.

Many thanks. Ivan
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Old 28-12-18, 08:31 PM
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Morning Ivan,

If it is Australian it would be 7th Aust Machine Gun Battalion, and worn with the point downwards. The patch was approved in May 1943 but the battalion was raised in New Guinea in late 1942 and I doubt the patch was worn for long, probably after the battalion returned to Australia in 1943 or early 1944 - it was disbanded in March 1944.

It was not general practice for colour patches to be worn on shirts, which is the only possible reason for the attachment to the khaki backing with clasp. The patch also looks completely unworn and unused (although of correct period manufacture), not something I would expect if it had been specifically made up for wear in the field.

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Old 29-12-18, 06:51 AM
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If the dark part of the triangle is actually green rather than black, this would be a 6th South African Armd Div sign, which seems to be more likely given the way it is set up on the piece of cloth.
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Old 29-12-18, 08:23 AM
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Morning Ivan,

If it is Australian it would be 7th Aust Machine Gun Battalion, and worn with the point downwards. The patch was approved in May 1943 but the battalion was raised in New Guinea in late 1942 and I doubt the patch was worn for long, probably after the battalion returned to Australia in 1943 or early 1944 - it was disbanded in March 1944.

It was not general practice for colour patches to be worn on shirts, which is the only possible reason for the attachment to the khaki backing with clasp. The patch also looks completely unworn and unused (although of correct period manufacture), not something I would expect if it had been specifically made up for wear in the field.

Keith
Thanks Keith, fantastic information. Whether it has been used or not I couldn't say.

I know absolutely nothing about these type of badges so if not general practice for these to be worn on a shirt, where would this patch ordinally be worn? (Is it a hat patch)?

Much appreciated.
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Old 29-12-18, 08:24 AM
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If the dark part of the triangle is actually green rather than black, this would be a 6th South African Armd Div sign, which seems to be more likely given the way it is set up on the piece of cloth.
The dark material is definitely black and not green.

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Old 29-12-18, 06:27 PM
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I know absolutely nothing about these type of badges so if not general practice for these to be worn on a shirt, where would this patch ordinally be worn? (Is it a hat patch)?
Ivan,

These patches were normally worn just below the head of the sleeve of the Service Dress jacket or the greatcoat, and on the right hand side of the puggaree of the slouch hat.

Black and yellow were the colour of the Australian Machine Gun battalions during the Great War and this was carried though during the Second World War. If the man was a volunteer for unrestricted service overseas he would have worn this patch on a battleship grey background.

If Australian it is the first I have seen mounted in this manner - 2/3 Aust MG Bn did wear their patches (different design) on their shirts before they went to the Middle East but they appear to have sewn them on. Perhaps the RSM or one of the officers had his patch for the hat puggaree made up in this manner so he could bleach his puggaree.

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Excellent information Keith, very much appreciated.

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